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Re: property

Postby psycho » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:09 pm

Avanapa wrote:
Johnson&Johnson wrote:those buysell figures are obviously cooked - i mean, where else on the planet would an ESTATE AGENT be considered the authority on house prices ???

its so ridiculous it beggars belief !


I have to agree with you there. I think though that even here in the UK the system is just as flawed. The only true valuation at any given time is whatever someone is prepared to pay to have your house.


Well said. However, there are still property owners and estate agents out there who think property it worth 25% more than it's really worth.
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Postby Johnson&Johnson » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:25 pm

Real estate agents’ concerns on property prices
First Published: 26/08/2008 08:00:11
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The boom in the property market has been affected badly lately, since the sharp decline in Paphos has spread to other regions too. The increase in interest rates and inflation has pushed domestic demand down and together with the drop in external demand, the problems are acute in many Cyprus’s regions.

In his statements to StockWatch, Chairman of the Pancyprian Association of Real Estate Agents, Solon Kourouklides said that the drop in the construction activity in Paphos is more than real. “Sales have dropped significantly and the number of indisposed properties increases drastically. In the past three months, the drop is of 30-40% for the external market and 5% for the domestic, while forecasts say that it will continue until the end of the year – early 2009”, he said.

The decline, however, does not concern sales only, but prices too. “Comparatively, Paphos had the highest prices. Today, property prices show a drastic decrease of up to 30% or even 50% for flats”, Mr. Kourouklides noted.

The problems in the property market do not concern Paphos only. “The future of the property market is gloomy due to the slowdown in the number of sales across Cyprus. The commercial plots and land are exempted since the demand by foreign investors – Russians mostly – who want to expand their business activities to the island, is big”, he added.

Reasons

Mr. Kourouklides said that the positive course has been overturned due to:

- The interest rate increase by 125 base points in few months.
- The impacts from the CB Circular, which provided for the increase in the advance payment for the purchase of a home from 30% to 40%. Although it has been withdrawn, it still causes problems because it is too hard to regain the external demand.
- The global economic crisis that hit the British market, which is 80% of external demand.
- The devaluation of the sterling against the euro.

“The interest rate increase, which pushes monthly installments up, is the main reason for the drop in domestic demand, which will continue in the next few months”, Mr. Kourouklides stressed.

Other reasons are the drop in the purchasing power of the consumers due to the sharp increase in the price of fuel and the confusion from the upcoming imposition of 15% VAT on properties.

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Banks to impose stricter criteria
First Published: 25/08/2008 07:45:06
Last Updated: 26/08/2008 07:53:51
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The commercial banks decided to introduce stricter criteria for the loans granted to property investors and developers, increasing their charges. The international credit crunch and the drop in the price of properties in countries such as Spain, Estonia and the UK have shaken the banks, which decided to make borrowing more difficult. The first signs of the defensive policy were apparent since early 2008, but become clearer as time goes by.

Banks mostly focus on the foreign property investors since the crisis in their countries makes their ability to pay off the loans more uncertain. Certain banks think of introducing stricter criteria for them, especially with regard to the period given until they start to pay the loans.

Measures will also be taken for those developers with small volume of activities. Due to the sharp drop in external demand, many developers face financial problems. In order to deal with the issue, banks started to observe the development of the economic activities on a more systematic basis.

“If the crisis goes on, lending will become more difficult for other professional groups too, such as hoteliers and traders”, bank officials say.

At the current stage, many businessmen and householders go through hard times due to the installments that they are called to pay after the interest rate increase. The increase in ECB rates to ease inflation together with the consecutive increases in the price of the bank interest rates have pushed interest rates up to 125 base points. The banks have also increased their charges for relevant services.

Inevitably, the interest rate increase and the acceleration of inflation have affected the loan market. Bank officials say that demand for loans has dropped in the past few months, although part of this decline is seasonal. However, credit growth, which neared 32% according to latest figures – remains at 20-25%.
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Postby dinos » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:54 pm

The way I see it, the real long-term problem facing markets with significant amounts of holiday properties is going to rear it's head when retiring baby boomers start dying off. Lots of people croaking plus very few in a position to buy their second homes = potential problems worthy of further analysis.
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Postby Feisty » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:37 pm

Retiring baby boomers leaving substantial estates to their offspring do you mean?
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Postby Free Spirit » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:38 pm

Johnson&Johnson wrote:The decline, however, does not concern sales only, but prices too. “Comparatively, Paphos had the highest prices. Today, property prices show a drastic decrease of up to 30% or even 50% for flats”, Mr. Kourouklides noted.

- The global economic crisis that hit the British market, which is 80% of external demand.

- The devaluation of the sterling against the euro.



At least someone has the guts to say it as it is, the head in the sand morons on Cyprus Living still live in cloud cuckoo land and throw a right wobbly when faced with the truth insisting that there is no problem.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:11 pm

Dinos said:

"The way I see it, the real long-term problem facing markets with significant amounts of holiday properties is going to rear it's head when retiring baby boomers start dying off. Lots of people croaking plus very few in a position to buy their second homes = potential problems worthy of further analysis."

Been thinking about this for some time now, more in connection with the demographic problem of Europe than the holiday home situation, although the two are connected.

The next generation, who will inherit the property owned by the present generation, will be fewer people as demographic studies show. Which means that wealth will be concentrated in fewer hands. Some countries with vicious tax policies, like the UK, will make it impossible to hold on to the property and, as buyers will be fewer, impossible to sell too, so the final choice will be to surrender the property to the state. In other countries with saner land policies the next generation is likely to contain a lot of landed people who will be rich, at least on paper. I wonder what the effects of this will be on society and the environment too.
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Postby Z4 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:13 pm

Well I think it is a good time to buy property in the UK now. There can be some bargains around.

We are considering buying a new house now.
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Postby Bubble 'n' squeak » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:43 pm

Z4 wrote:Well I think it is a good time to buy property in the UK now. There can be some bargains around.

We are considering buying a new house now.


I haven't seen any bargains??? Where are you looking? :?
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Postby RichardB » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:45 pm

Z4 wrote:Well I think it is a good time to buy property in the UK now. There can be some bargains around.

We are considering buying a new house now.


I agree Simon

It is more difficult to get mortgages at the moment but that will change in the next couple of years but if you have a decent equity in your property now is the time to purchase for investment as has been said on the thread these things go round in circles and as sure as Larry prices will eventually rise
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Postby Feisty » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:14 pm

Z4 wrote:Well I think it is a good time to buy property in the UK now. There can be some bargains around.

We are considering buying a new house now.


With prices predicted to drop by up to 30% more I would think it's the last thing anyone would think about doing.
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