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Postby Piratis » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:41 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:If, following a settlement, the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island, then Turkish will become an official EU language. All EU citizens are entitled to access community documentation in their own language.


There are more Turks in Germany and other EU countries than they are in Cyprus. If that was the case then Turkish would be an official EU language already.
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Postby iceman » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:54 pm

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Stop mixing apples and bananas..You are both trying to ignore the fact that Republic Of Cyprus has TWO official languages..Greek & Turkish...full stop.
If the whole of Republic Of Cyprus is accepted into EU but acquis communautaire is suspended for the time being in the north...Then,after a solution Turkish WILL automatically be an official EU language....you have to learn to live with this fact..
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:03 pm

iceman wrote:Kifeas/Piratis
Stop mixing apples and bananas..You are both trying to ignore the fact that Republic Of Cyprus has TWO official languages..Greek & Turkish...full stop.
If the whole of Republic Of Cyprus is accepted into EU but acquis communautaire is suspended for the time being in the north...Then,after a solution Turkish WILL automatically be an official EU language....you have to learn to live with this fact..


Iceman, I do not know what apples and bananas I have mixed. I only asked Zan why he wants or expects that Turkish should be an EU language! I know the RoC has two official languages, but as far as I know, Zan does not recognise the RoC! Neither "TRNC" -which Zan recognises- is an EU member state, nor any other Turkish speaking country does! Why then does he want Turkish to be an EU language? On what basis?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:21 pm

Piratis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:If, following a settlement, the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island, then Turkish will become an official EU language. All EU citizens are entitled to access community documentation in their own language.


There are more Turks in Germany and other EU countries than they are in Cyprus. If that was the case then Turkish would be an official EU language already.


OK, the phrase "in their own language" was clumsy. The EU does not grant official status to languages like Breton or Friesian becase these are not official national languages. However, Greek and Turkish are the official languages of the RoC and Turkish will become an official EU language if and when the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:47 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:If, following a settlement, the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island, then Turkish will become an official EU language. All EU citizens are entitled to access community documentation in their own language.


There are more Turks in Germany and other EU countries than they are in Cyprus. If that was the case then Turkish would be an official EU language already.


OK, the phrase "in their own language" was clumsy. The EU does not grant official status to languages like Breton or Friesian becase these are not official national languages. However, Greek and Turkish are the official languages of the RoC and Turkish will become an official EU language if and when the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island.


I still think you are making unjustified assumptions on the prevailing officialdom of the Turkish Language in Cyprus, post solution! :wink:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:14 pm

Oracle wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:If, following a settlement, the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island, then Turkish will become an official EU language. All EU citizens are entitled to access community documentation in their own language.


There are more Turks in Germany and other EU countries than they are in Cyprus. If that was the case then Turkish would be an official EU language already.


OK, the phrase "in their own language" was clumsy. The EU does not grant official status to languages like Breton or Friesian becase these are not official national languages. However, Greek and Turkish are the official languages of the RoC and Turkish will become an official EU language if and when the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island.


I still think you are making unjustified assumptions on the prevailing officialdom of the Turkish Language in Cyprus, post solution! :wink:


I do not think I am. The TCs will only accept reunification on the basis of political equality, and that implies linguistic equality.

Anyhow, Turkish has official status in the RoC now. Do you have an RoC identity card? Check which languages it is written in.
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Postby DT. » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:20 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:If, following a settlement, the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island, then Turkish will become an official EU language. All EU citizens are entitled to access community documentation in their own language.


There are more Turks in Germany and other EU countries than they are in Cyprus. If that was the case then Turkish would be an official EU language already.


OK, the phrase "in their own language" was clumsy. The EU does not grant official status to languages like Breton or Friesian becase these are not official national languages. However, Greek and Turkish are the official languages of the RoC and Turkish will become an official EU language if and when the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island.


I still think you are making unjustified assumptions on the prevailing officialdom of the Turkish Language in Cyprus, post solution! :wink:


I do not think I am. The TCs will only accept reunification on the basis of political equality, and that implies linguistic equality.

Anyhow, Turkish has official status in the RoC now. Do you have an RoC identity card? Check which languages it is written in.


Thats got nothing to do with it Tim, its also in English but ENglish isn't an official language in Cyprus.

WHen there is a solution then we'll all sing Turkish amanedes together...until then its not an official language.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:28 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:If, following a settlement, the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island, then Turkish will become an official EU language. All EU citizens are entitled to access community documentation in their own language.


There are more Turks in Germany and other EU countries than they are in Cyprus. If that was the case then Turkish would be an official EU language already.


OK, the phrase "in their own language" was clumsy. The EU does not grant official status to languages like Breton or Friesian becase these are not official national languages. However, Greek and Turkish are the official languages of the RoC and Turkish will become an official EU language if and when the acquis communautaire applies to the whole island.


I still think you are making unjustified assumptions on the prevailing officialdom of the Turkish Language in Cyprus, post solution! :wink:


I do not think I am. The TCs will only accept reunification on the basis of political equality, and that implies linguistic equality.

Anyhow, Turkish has official status in the RoC now. Do you have an RoC identity card? Check which languages it is written in.


I don't think we will ever have a solution if we wait for the TCs to be "happy" .. indeed even negotiating with Turkey is fast failing. The only solution I see now is where the EU demands the withdrawal of Turkey from EU territory and Cyprus finally receives the full self-determination and complete Democratisation it failed to get in 1960.

So guess what? ... no more Turkish as an Official Language. :D
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:58 pm

zan wrote:And a bıg thank you to Lord Magınnıs for doıng all he can to help also.....

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19232


Other than correcting the misspelling between the "AKP" and "EOKA-B", what else did he do for the TC's.??
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:21 pm

DT. wrote:

Thats got nothing to do with it Tim, its also in English but ENglish isn't an official language in Cyprus.

WHen there is a solution then we'll all sing Turkish amanedes together...until then its not an official language.


Is it so?
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