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[salonica]

Piratis

what you have gained by being in the Eu, is the same as what Turkey will lose by being blocked from the Eu.....in otherwords nothing.

All that happens is they tell you how long or heavy sausages can be and what your roadsigns can be etc etc

Anglo

If you are British, can you please tell us what Britain gains by being in the Eu?

Nothing??????

You don't have a clue, what will happen if Turkey doesn't make it after all.
It's fnancial system will collapse, I mean big time.

The rest will follow

Why? Many European and other foreign businessmen have investments even in Iran. Turkey's financial system does not collapse but the NATO alliance takes a big wound. Globalization of world takes a big wound. Putting Turkey outside of EU cause collapse of globalization process. Turkey is the final leg of globalization of Europe. The big actors of globalization project which are also members of NATO alliance will exert every effort to make Turkey a European country.

Ok we will have the same argument then. Investments even in Turkey.

Th stock exchange will collapse, FDI will almost be terminated, IMF reluctant to proceed with further financing.

it won't take too long until the country fall apart

[erolz]

Th stock exchange will collapse, FDI will almost be terminated, IMF reluctant to proceed with further financing.

it won't take too long until the country fall apart

This to me seems like wishful thinking. Capital will flow to where the greatest growth prospects are - just as it flows now to china and many other places outside the EU where growth potential is high and stability is lower than in the EU.

Failure of Turkey to gain EU accession does not automaticaly mean finaical ruin and colapse of Turkey, any more than it means that EU countries will be unable to pay their pensions as their populations continue to age. Both are possible but neither is assured. Turkey could survive outside the EU and the EU could survive without Turkey joining. Either could colapse with or without each other and both might be stronger with each other.

[salonica]

Th stock exchange will collapse, FDI will almost be terminated, IMF reluctant to proceed with further financing.

it won't take too long until the country fall apart

This to me seems like wishful thinking. Capital will flow to where the greatest growth prospects are - just as it flows now to china and many other places outside the EU where growth potential is high and stability is lower than in the EU.

Failure of Turkey to gain EU accession does not automaticaly mean finaical ruin and colapse of Turkey, any more than it means that EU countries will be unable to pay their pensions as their populations continue to age. Both are possible but neither is assured. Turkey could survive outside the EU and the EU could survive without Turkey joining. Either could colapse with or without each other and both might be stronger with each other.

You are wrong capital will not flow to Turkey if it fails to enter EU. Do not forget that a lot of the potential gains have ALREADY priced in in the financial system of Turkey. Just imagine what will happen if Turkey fails to deliver. Wherever the fundamentals don't support such flows, a bubble is created and we have many examples to remember.
Comparing Turkey with China is rediculous. The infrastructure of China is way ahead of that of Turkey's. The growth rate achieved is due to constraints such as the pedding Yuan.

If there is one thing sure in life, that is the fact that Turkey will collapse if it fails to enter. I am afraid of this scenario, cause Turkey usually exports its problems to neighboring countries like Greece.

[insan]

If there is one thing sure in life, that is the fact that Turkey will collapse if it fails to enter. I am afraid of this scenario, cause Turkey usually exports its problems to neighboring countries like Greece.

Oh my dear, god sent; angel Hellenes.

[salonica]

don't be silly now that's irrelevant

your opinion is......?

[insan]

don't be silly now that's irrelevant

your opinion is......?

you don't be silly! What problems Turkey exported to her neighbouring countries, for instance to Greece? It is Hellenic lobby that works in full cooperation with Armenian and Kurdish lobbies to export its problems into Turkey.

[gabaston]

Thanks Anglo for the answer

Oh the only benefit i remember is Nissan Sunderland, Japanese investment for the north east of England.

Up until a few years ago I was pro Europe, but ive slowly changed my mind- Why do they want Hungary, Poland,

Ask yourself why do they want to share so called Eu wealth with poor Hungary and poor Poland............why?

If i am rich and ive got a succesful business why would i want to make a poorman my partner? So that he can share my wealth?......oh yeah human rights..right?

Think about it.

And Turkey please think very very carefully...There are other new economies emerging e.g didn't China turn her nose up at Britains last remaining Car manufacturer Rover.

[salonica]

don't be silly now that's irrelevant

your opinion is......?

you don't be silly! What problems Turkey exported to her neighbouring countries, for instance to Greece? It is Hellenic lobby that works in full cooperation with Armenian and Kurdish lobbies to export its problems into Turkey.

would you like to be more precise?

[Anglo]

Poland, Hungary etc, provide a great source of cheap labour...so could Turkey...

[gabaston]

Erolz hit the nail on the head

EU countries will be unable to pay their pensions as their populations continue to age.


This is why Eu seeks enlargement...get it?