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[Magnus]

I say the Pyrgotes have got it right. The Turks want to come and celebrate their invasion of Cyprus (as if that parade wasn't distasteful enough) but these people aren't allowed to use their road to go to their church a couple of times? The way things are going, that church might not even be there next year.

If Talat is really in charge over there then he should show some goodwill. If he isn't then he should give up this charade of negotiations, stop pretending he is anything other than a puppet and show the world who is pulling his strings.

Don't you thınk that Tpap ıs unusually quıte after hıs supposed defeat ın the last electıon How can a man that has been actıve as an EOKA man and ın varıous posıtıons ın governement just dısappear lıke that What part dıd Chrıstophıas play ın hıs rıse to government Where are you Tpap

You never know, he might decide to join the good people of Pyrgos (incidentally the best village in Cyprus) at the blockade

[paliometoxo]

Hopes rise for Limnitis deal
By Jean Christou

THE TURKISH Cypriot side said yesterday that if there were no technical problems they would give the green light allowing Greek Cypriots to cross at Limnitis for the annual pilgrimage to Morphou.

The statement came a day after residents of nearby Pyrgos said they would prevent Turkish Cypriots from crossing at the same point when they come on Friday to Kokkina to mark the 44th anniversary of the Turkish bombardment that relieved the siege of the Turkish Cypriot enclave in 1964.

Residents have been asking for years to be allowed to cross at Limnitis to hold their own ceremony for the people killed on August 8, 1964 and to cross again on September 2 to attend the Church of Ayios Mammas, to mark the saint’s feast day.

They said on Monday that if they were not allowed to cross, then Turkish Cypriots should not be allowed to either. Until then, requests made through the UN to the Turkish side had proved fruitless.

Hasan Ercakica, the spokesman for Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, said yesterday they always looked favourably on humanitarian issues and barring “technical problem”, would give permission.

Limnitis is the next area slated for a crossing point but is not ready to be officially opened yet. The two leaders agreed at their last meeting on July 25 to go ahead with the opening, but about a year’s work still needs to be done before the road is fully functional.

If Greek Cypriots were to cross, it could involve as many as 20 busloads, which would take some organisation in an area not fully prepared for heavy traffic.

The government, worried that trouble over the August 8 events could jeopardise plans for opening a full-fledged crossing point, has been trying to calm the situation with the Pyrgos residents, who said yesterday they would stick to their guns over the planned blockade on Friday unless they were also allowed access.

Costas Michaelides, the community leader of Pyrgos said: “If the UN provides us with a written guarantee, then there is absolutely no problem, we will suspend our measures. Otherwise, we will go ahead as planned.”

Later, Presidential Commissioner George Iacovou said he was in touch with the UN on the issue. Iacovou was hoping to have a reply within the day yesterday, and was hopeful of a positive outcome.

“I believe that we can justifiably be optimistic that this will have a happy ending,” he said.

Until 2004, the Turkish Cypriots travelled to Kokkina by boat but in 2004, a year after the first crossing point opened in Nicosia, the government, allowed them to cross by land through Limnitis for the first time since 1974 after a request was made by the Turkish Cypriot side.

Greek Cypriots were first allowed to cross to Ayios Mammas in 2004 but had to travel all the way to Nicosia to cross, drive back towards Morphou on the northern side of the buffer zone, and repeat the route to get back home to Pyrgos.

A year later they were able to use the newly-opened Zodia crossing, east of Morphou in the Nicosia district. However, Pyrgos residents don’t see why they have to travel so far when they could cross at Limnitis.

[Lit]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default. ... =Viewpoint

Giving and giving…

Give and take is an important part of any relationship, whether it be between a married couple or political leaders.

The Turkish Cypriots were eager that the Ledra Street crossing should be opened up, decades after the capital’s main shopping street was cut in half.

In the negotiations between President Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, it was agreed that Ledra Street could open and in return, the Limnitis crossing would get similar treatment.

Well, hundreds of thousands of crossings have been made through Ledra Street, but Limnitis remains firmly shut.

It seems that once again that the Greek Cypriot gives, and gets nothing in return.

The Turkish Cypriots, no doubt obeying their Turkish masters, are making a number of demands and continue to play hard to get on the subject.

We should not be surprised this has happened so many times in the past with so many agreements we thought had been finalised.

President Christofias said yesterday that “the less we say, the better.”

We should not have to be walking on eggshells regarding matters of this kind.

The Turkish Cypriot side should state whether they are serious about reopening Limnitis or whether they are playing some sort of game.

This is certainly not within the spirit of the talks to solve the Cyprus problem and does not augur well for other important matters that remain to be discussed.

[Viewpoint]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?articleID=7849&heading=Viewpoint

Giving and giving…

Give and take is an important part of any relationship, whether it be between a married couple or political leaders.

The Turkish Cypriots were eager that the Ledra Street crossing should be opened up, decades after the capital’s main shopping street was cut in half.

In the negotiations between President Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, it was agreed that Ledra Street could open and in return, the Limnitis crossing would get similar treatment.

Well, hundreds of thousands of crossings have been made through Ledra Street, but Limnitis remains firmly shut.

It seems that once again that the Greek Cypriot gives, and gets nothing in return.

The Turkish Cypriots, no doubt obeying their Turkish masters, are making a number of demands and continue to play hard to get on the subject.

We should not be surprised this has happened so many times in the past with so many agreements we thought had been finalised.

President Christofias said yesterday that “the less we say, the better.”

We should not have to be walking on eggshells regarding matters of this kind.

The Turkish Cypriot side should state whether they are serious about reopening Limnitis or whether they are playing some sort of game.

This is certainly not within the spirit of the talks to solve the Cyprus problem and does not augur well for other important matters that remain to be discussed.

Take the matter to court...maybe you can sort it out that way?

[YFred]

While he is in court can he include the Lurucina / Limbya crossing too please?

[Lit]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?articleID=7849&heading=Viewpoint

Giving and giving…

Give and take is an important part of any relationship, whether it be between a married couple or political leaders.

The Turkish Cypriots were eager that the Ledra Street crossing should be opened up, decades after the capital’s main shopping street was cut in half.

In the negotiations between President Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, it was agreed that Ledra Street could open and in return, the Limnitis crossing would get similar treatment.

Well, hundreds of thousands of crossings have been made through Ledra Street, but Limnitis remains firmly shut.

It seems that once again that the Greek Cypriot gives, and gets nothing in return.

The Turkish Cypriots, no doubt obeying their Turkish masters, are making a number of demands and continue to play hard to get on the subject.

We should not be surprised this has happened so many times in the past with so many agreements we thought had been finalised.

President Christofias said yesterday that “the less we say, the better.”

We should not have to be walking on eggshells regarding matters of this kind.

The Turkish Cypriot side should state whether they are serious about reopening Limnitis or whether they are playing some sort of game.

This is certainly not within the spirit of the talks to solve the Cyprus problem and does not augur well for other important matters that remain to be discussed.

Take the matter to court...maybe you can sort it out that way?

I dont understand why the crossing is closed and i dont understand your response above. Why would we have to take it to court?

We had a person die this year because it took an ambulance 2 and a half hours to get him to the hospital but if the crossing was open it would have only taken 45 minutes and this individual may still be alive today. The people in that area are isolated and are requesting the reopening of Limnitis crossing....whats the problem? Why is everything so difficult? We have opened up Ledra why not this particular crossing? Talat last year stated that the Limnitis crossing would be open.......we havent even gotten to hard topics yet and Talat is now backpedaling telling us that the Limnitis crossing can only be open if the RoC agrees to allow fuel through the RoC to the Kokkina enclave that would be used by occupation troops. Unbelievable, what are all these silly demands? Should the RoC now help and support the very troops that are occupying it just to get this crossing open? Yeah like that is going to happen. Constantly making demands even on the most simplistic of issues. Truly disgusting.

[wallace]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?articleID=7849&heading=Viewpoint

Giving and giving…

Give and take is an important part of any relationship, whether it be between a married couple or political leaders.

The Turkish Cypriots were eager that the Ledra Street crossing should be opened up, decades after the capital’s main shopping street was cut in half.

In the negotiations between President Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, it was agreed that Ledra Street could open and in return, the Limnitis crossing would get similar treatment.

Well, hundreds of thousands of crossings have been made through Ledra Street, but Limnitis remains firmly shut.

It seems that once again that the Greek Cypriot gives, and gets nothing in return.

The Turkish Cypriots, no doubt obeying their Turkish masters, are making a number of demands and continue to play hard to get on the subject.

We should not be surprised this has happened so many times in the past with so many agreements we thought had been finalised.

President Christofias said yesterday that “the less we say, the better.”

We should not have to be walking on eggshells regarding matters of this kind.

The Turkish Cypriot side should state whether they are serious about reopening Limnitis or whether they are playing some sort of game.

This is certainly not within the spirit of the talks to solve the Cyprus problem and does not augur well for other important matters that remain to be discussed.

Take the matter to court...maybe you can sort it out that way?

I dont understand why the crossing is closed and i dont understand your response above. Why would we have to take it to court?

We had a person die this year because it took an ambulance 2 and a half hours to get him to the hospital but if the crossing was open it would have only taken 45 minutes and this individual may still be alive today. The people in that area are isolated and are requesting the reopening of Limnitis crossing....whats the problem? Why is everything so difficult? We have opened up Ledra why not this particular crossing? Talat last year stated that the Limnitis crossing would be open.......we havent even gotten to hard topics yet and Talat is now backpedaling telling us that the Limnitis crossing can only be open if the RoC agrees to allow fuel through the RoC to the Kokkina enclave that would be used by occupation troops. Unbelievable, what are all these silly demands? Should the RoC now help and support the very troops that are occupying it just to get this crossing open? Yeah like that is going to happen. Constantly making demands even on the most simplistic of issues. Truly disgusting.

Well....what did you expect? Bloody Turks keep on demanding more and more. Even Ban-Ki Moon is calling on the Turks now that they should open up Limnitis with no more delays. Lets see if this will help.

[paliometoxo]

i bet if they are blocked the tcs form coming the army will say thats an excuse to invade....

[YFred]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?articleID=7849&heading=Viewpoint

Giving and giving…

Give and take is an important part of any relationship, whether it be between a married couple or political leaders.

The Turkish Cypriots were eager that the Ledra Street crossing should be opened up, decades after the capital’s main shopping street was cut in half.

In the negotiations between President Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, it was agreed that Ledra Street could open and in return, the Limnitis crossing would get similar treatment.

Well, hundreds of thousands of crossings have been made through Ledra Street, but Limnitis remains firmly shut.

It seems that once again that the Greek Cypriot gives, and gets nothing in return.

The Turkish Cypriots, no doubt obeying their Turkish masters, are making a number of demands and continue to play hard to get on the subject.

We should not be surprised this has happened so many times in the past with so many agreements we thought had been finalised.

President Christofias said yesterday that “the less we say, the better.”

We should not have to be walking on eggshells regarding matters of this kind.

The Turkish Cypriot side should state whether they are serious about reopening Limnitis or whether they are playing some sort of game.

This is certainly not within the spirit of the talks to solve the Cyprus problem and does not augur well for other important matters that remain to be discussed.

Take the matter to court...maybe you can sort it out that way?

I dont understand why the crossing is closed and i dont understand your response above. Why would we have to take it to court?

We had a person die this year because it took an ambulance 2 and a half hours to get him to the hospital but if the crossing was open it would have only taken 45 minutes and this individual may still be alive today. The people in that area are isolated and are requesting the reopening of Limnitis crossing....whats the problem? Why is everything so difficult? We have opened up Ledra why not this particular crossing? Talat last year stated that the Limnitis crossing would be open.......we havent even gotten to hard topics yet and Talat is now backpedaling telling us that the Limnitis crossing can only be open if the RoC agrees to allow fuel through the RoC to the Kokkina enclave that would be used by occupation troops. Unbelievable, what are all these silly demands? Should the RoC now help and support the very troops that are occupying it just to get this crossing open? Yeah like that is going to happen. Constantly making demands even on the most simplistic of issues. Truly disgusting.

Well....what did you expect? Bloody Turks keep on demanding more and more. Even Ban-Ki Moon is calling on the Turks now that they should open up Limnitis with no more delays. Lets see if this will help.

Even if they agreed to open the Limnitis crossing, it will take 12 months to prepare for it. So, I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you.

[YFred]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?articleID=7849&heading=Viewpoint

Giving and giving…

Give and take is an important part of any relationship, whether it be between a married couple or political leaders.

The Turkish Cypriots were eager that the Ledra Street crossing should be opened up, decades after the capital’s main shopping street was cut in half.

In the negotiations between President Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, it was agreed that Ledra Street could open and in return, the Limnitis crossing would get similar treatment.

Well, hundreds of thousands of crossings have been made through Ledra Street, but Limnitis remains firmly shut.

It seems that once again that the Greek Cypriot gives, and gets nothing in return.

The Turkish Cypriots, no doubt obeying their Turkish masters, are making a number of demands and continue to play hard to get on the subject.

We should not be surprised this has happened so many times in the past with so many agreements we thought had been finalised.

President Christofias said yesterday that “the less we say, the better.”

We should not have to be walking on eggshells regarding matters of this kind.

The Turkish Cypriot side should state whether they are serious about reopening Limnitis or whether they are playing some sort of game.

This is certainly not within the spirit of the talks to solve the Cyprus problem and does not augur well for other important matters that remain to be discussed.

Take the matter to court...maybe you can sort it out that way?

I dont understand why the crossing is closed and i dont understand your response above. Why would we have to take it to court?

We had a person die this year because it took an ambulance 2 and a half hours to get him to the hospital but if the crossing was open it would have only taken 45 minutes and this individual may still be alive today. The people in that area are isolated and are requesting the reopening of Limnitis crossing....whats the problem? Why is everything so difficult? We have opened up Ledra why not this particular crossing? Talat last year stated that the Limnitis crossing would be open.......we havent even gotten to hard topics yet and Talat is now backpedaling telling us that the Limnitis crossing can only be open if the RoC agrees to allow fuel through the RoC to the Kokkina enclave that would be used by occupation troops. Unbelievable, what are all these silly demands? Should the RoC now help and support the very troops that are occupying it just to get this crossing open? Yeah like that is going to happen. Constantly making demands even on the most simplistic of issues. Truly disgusting.

That is the stupidest idea I have ever heard. Perhaps food and medication can't be transferred either because troops may use them too. Even air should be blocked from them because soldiers also have to breathe air.
Stupidity breeds more stupidity.