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THE REJECTIONISTS ARE WORRIED STIFF

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby DT. » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:27 am

zan wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:You see Alex, the rejectionists are worried stiff...

As September 3 approaches, they will try all sort of arguments in an effort to undermine the negotiations. Among else, they will try to focus their arguments to the xenophobic nature of Greek Cypriots, just like they did in 2003-2004. However, this time round we have Christofias at the helm of the Greek Cypriots and those tactics will not succeed, in my opinion.

Probably by XMAS we will get a clear indication that the two leaders are close to putting their initials on a draft agreement. I am vey optimistic that an agreement can materialise. We may be facing solution in the face right at this moment.

I think the forces of solution on both sides will be overwhelming and they will brush rejectionists aside as though they never existed.


Lets hope you're right. They may have already agreed on it by now.


A posıtıve note from DT for a faır solutıon..... :shock: :shock:


Always been for a fair solution Zan. Have probably prepared myself to compromise a lot more than most TC's on here. As for Bananiot, he does not have the monopoly on wanting a solution. Our difference is that Bananiot likes to walk "naked in the thorns" (Xipoytos sta angkathia) whereas I like to have a few safeguards in place in case Turkey goes back on its word and defaults on the agreement.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:38 am

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Oracle wrote:Maybe his misogynistic tendencies got the better of him .... being more important that she was Papadopoulos' wife, then a person in her own right

Or maybe it was his anti-Papadopoulos sentiment, for which I cannot blame him. The man (Papadopoulos, not Bananiot) IS a partitionist and all he did during his term was to keep the current status quo at all cost


Precisely why I said he was not treating Photini Papadopoulos as a person in her own right but just as an extension of his hate for the ex-President.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:53 am

Personally I am disappointed at those myopic, amnesiac people who disparigingly label Cypriots as xenophobic.

Most Cypriots only know "strangers" as invaders; ones who come to the Island to kill and pillage (Ottomans), rule and purloin minerals (British); ethnically cleanse and swipe land (Turks) ... and even now, to this day, the main "xeni" are illegal Anatolian settlers and 40,000 Turkish troops keeping a quarter of the population from their rightful homes.

So tell me which, from amongst those people you would choose to love?

Just be thankful most of you do not have your enemies living in your own country ....

On the whole it is obvious to all but the most proficient anti-Cypriot propagandists that the Cypriots are merely suffering from the fact they have been all too trusting and too small in number to effectively stave off such a barrage of takeovers from foreigners.

Still all most unblinkered, fair-minded people see in Cypriots, are a happy-go-lucky, unstressed, take eveyone at face value, contented and extremely hospitable and .... welcoming people!
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Postby alexISS » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:49 pm

Oracle wrote:Personally I am disappointed at those myopic, amnesiac people who disparigingly label Cypriots as xenophobic.

Most Cypriots only know "strangers" as invaders; ones who come to the Island to kill and pillage (Ottomans), rule and purloin minerals (British); ethnically cleanse and swipe land (Turks) ... and even now, to this day, the main "xeni" are illegal Anatolian settlers and 40,000 Turkish troops keeping a quarter of the population from their rightful homes.

So tell me which, from amongst those people you would choose to love?

Just be thankful most of you do not have your enemies living in your own country ....

On the whole it is obvious to all but the most proficient anti-Cypriot propagandists that the Cypriots are merely suffering from the fact they have been all too trusting and too small in number to effectively stave off such a barrage of takeovers from foreigners.

Still all most unblinkered, fair-minded people see in Cypriots, are a happy-go-lucky, unstressed, take eveyone at face value, contented and extremely hospitable and .... welcoming people!


The Cypriots have many perfectly good reasons to be xenophobic, and that's why they ARE
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Postby alexISS » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:11 pm

DT. wrote:Our difference is that Bananiot likes to walk "naked in the thorns" (Xipoytos sta angkathia) whereas I like to have a few safeguards in place in case Turkey goes back on its word and defaults on the agreement.


Perhaps Bananiot is too "relaxed" regarding the concessions the Greek Cypriots will have to make, but Papadopoulos and his supporters are the exact opposite. DT seems to be one of the very few Cypriots that are in the middle of the two extremes, and that's the kind of people Cyprus needs right now imo
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Postby Oracle » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:24 pm

alexISS wrote:
Oracle wrote:Personally I am disappointed at those myopic, amnesiac people who disparigingly label Cypriots as xenophobic.

Most Cypriots only know "strangers" as invaders; ones who come to the Island to kill and pillage (Ottomans), rule and purloin minerals (British); ethnically cleanse and swipe land (Turks) ... and even now, to this day, the main "xeni" are illegal Anatolian settlers and 40,000 Turkish troops keeping a quarter of the population from their rightful homes.

So tell me which, from amongst those people you would choose to love?

Just be thankful most of you do not have your enemies living in your own country ....

On the whole it is obvious to all but the most proficient anti-Cypriot propagandists that the Cypriots are merely suffering from the fact they have been all too trusting and too small in number to effectively stave off such a barrage of takeovers from foreigners.

Still all most unblinkered, fair-minded people see in Cypriots, are a happy-go-lucky, unstressed, take eveyone at face value, contented and extremely hospitable and .... welcoming people!


The Cypriots have many perfectly good reasons to be xenophobic, and that's why they ARE


The Cypriots have many perfectly good reasons to be many things ... which they are NOT. :?

Although you may have a cause to an effect, there may be many reasons the effect is not manifested.

It may be the prejudices of the observer as to which expectations are perceived :wink:
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:27 pm

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DT. wrote:Our difference is that Bananiot likes to walk "naked in the thorns" (Xipoytos sta angkathia) whereas I like to have a few safeguards in place in case Turkey goes back on its word and defaults on the agreement.


Perhaps Bananiot is too "relaxed" regarding the concessions the Greek Cypriots will have to make, but Papadopoulos and his supporters are the exact opposite. DT seems to be one of the very few Cypriots that are in the middle of the two extremes, and that's the kind of people Cyprus needs right now imo


Thanks Alexi, I shall do my best to multiply.
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Postby alexISS » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:30 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriots have many perfectly good reasons to be many things ... which they are NOT. :?

And xenophobia is not one of them

Oracle wrote:Although you may have a cause to an effect, there may be many reasons the effect is not manifested.

However the effect is more likely to manifest itself when the causes are also present

Oracle wrote:It may be the prejudices of the observer as to which expectations are perceived :wink:

If "prejudices" is another word for "personal experience" then that's right, that's the only criterion I have
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Postby alexISS » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:41 pm

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:Our difference is that Bananiot likes to walk "naked in the thorns" (Xipoytos sta angkathia) whereas I like to have a few safeguards in place in case Turkey goes back on its word and defaults on the agreement.


Perhaps Bananiot is too "relaxed" regarding the concessions the Greek Cypriots will have to make, but Papadopoulos and his supporters are the exact opposite. DT seems to be one of the very few Cypriots that are in the middle of the two extremes, and that's the kind of people Cyprus needs right now imo


Thanks Alexi, I shall do my best to multiply.


Just don't mate with any Chirokitians, they are quite primitive
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:02 pm

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DT. wrote:Our difference is that Bananiot likes to walk "naked in the thorns" (Xipoytos sta angkathia) whereas I like to have a few safeguards in place in case Turkey goes back on its word and defaults on the agreement.


Perhaps Bananiot is too "relaxed" regarding the concessions the Greek Cypriots will have to make, but Papadopoulos and his supporters are the exact opposite. DT seems to be one of the very few Cypriots that are in the middle of the two extremes, and that's the kind of people Cyprus needs right now imo


Thanks Alexi, I shall do my best to multiply.


Just don't mate with any Chirokitians, they are quite primitive


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