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[alexISS]

We had a Hellenic Society at University (UK) (no Cypriot Soc.) and because it showed Greek movies, organised Greek food tastings etc it had about equal numbers Greek and Cypriots. I was accepted more into the Greek camp than the Cypriot camp. The Cypriots would often refer to me as a Kalamarina but the Greeks never made an issue of my Cypriotness.

The word "Kalamaras" is an insult to the one who's using it, it literally means "scribbler" and the Cypriots used it to describe the mainland Greeks who, unlike the local villagers, knew how to read and write!

Nearly all of my Cypriot cousins that went to study in Greece married and stayed there, even though they were slightly anti-Greek before going.

That proves that Cypriots like Greece more than they'd like to admit, doesn't it

So I think the Greeks and Cypriots are beginning to feel comfortable with each other again.

Kalamarades kai koumparoi, united we stand!

[DT.]

You are indeed pathetic Oracle. Whenever you desire sympathy you pretend that you do not know. You pretend that you swim in an ocean of ignorance. In this case however it is not your fault really. DT should have known better. When I referred to Photini I did so as in her capacity of President of the Cyprus Red Cross. After all, even fools like you Oracle cannot hide behind ignorance knowing that UN aid money is never paid to individuals but to organisations. In fact I have referred to this money on a number of occasions, especially during the infamous time of Papadopoulos's ambient atmosphere.

Photini is a multi billionaire and on a personal level she has no need for a few thousand dollars. However, some people have a need it seems, to deviate from the topic of the thread. DT does this quite regularly and mostly he criticises people in a very unproductive manner, instead of criticising the ideas that come out of people. In this thread he only saw Bananiot trying to undermine Photini and of course the crazy woman seconded him, right away.

Repulsewarrior, Nikos Rolandis is one of the few persons we have in this banana plantation that talks sense and for this reason you can expect a barrage of abuse from the pavement patriots, any moment now.

Piratis, when you accuse people that you disagree with you that they are the bearers of Turkish propaganda that is fascism. You have had a good teacher on this. Papadopoulos, while President of all Cypriots, claimed that 100 000 people that voted for solution were traitors. He told us that that they were paid good dollars for their treachery and it is up to them to prove that they were not paid! He said that the yes platform says in Greek what the enemy says in Turkish. He also claimed that we spend our time at the court of Xerxes, if you can understand the insinuation. Of course, your clock has stopped at the pre February 17th 2008 period and you find it hard to understand that the "other" opinion is no longer vilified, but, this is not my problem. Papadopoulos was sent packing mostly for his arrogance and his dead end policy on the Cyprob. When you claim that he was "naturally" sent home because people did the usual and voted for their party, you display total ignorance of the statistics of the last election which showed that a sizeable number of DIKO and EDEK members did not vote for Papadopoulos.

P.S. Perhaps you can tell us why you think Denktash opened the gates in 2003, Repulsewarrior.

Bananiot, you are free to critisice anyone you want for anything you want. I will correct you time and time again however when you make such assumptions about what people know and don't know. 90% of the people on this forum do not live in Cyprus and would not have known that Photini is the President of the Cyprus Red Cross. Saying she pocketed foreign money and assuming that everyone knows it was on behalf of the Red Cross is trying to mislead people.

I'm sorry if thats a problem for you but you need to be honest with people.

I would like to point out that Bananiot did not mention that Photini is the President of the Cypriot Red Cross in his initial post. Also, I myself had no idea that Photini was the President of the Cyprus Red Cross. Cypriots in the Diaspora can not be expected to have an in depth knowledge of Cypriot politics. Local knowledge is indeed lacking for many of us.

Therefore, my initial understanding of Bananiot's first post was that he was insinuating that Photini was on the take with UN aid money to Cyprus. Bananiot's deceptive propaganda almost achieved it's desired objective, until DT clarified the matter.

There you go Bananiot. Both Paphitis and Pantheman were misled.

[Agios Ionas]

The word "Kalamaras" is an insult to the one who's using it, it literally means "scribbler" and the Cypriots used it to describe the mainland Greeks who, unlike the local villagers, knew how to read and write!

I thought 'kalamarades' was used to describe a superfluous bureaucratic employee serving no purpose... ie a pencil pusher.

[alexISS]

The word "Kalamaras" is an insult to the one who's using it, it literally means "scribbler" and the Cypriots used it to describe the mainland Greeks who, unlike the local villagers, knew how to read and write!

I thought 'kalamarades' was used to describe a superfluous bureaucratic employee serving no purpose... ie a pencil pusher.

How, and for what reason, would Cypriots be in such a frequent contact with Greek bureaucrats that they would invent a nickname for them?

[Oracle]

The word "Kalamaras" is an insult to the one who's using it, it literally means "scribbler" and the Cypriots used it to describe the mainland Greeks who, unlike the local villagers, knew how to read and write!

I thought 'kalamarades' was used to describe a superfluous bureaucratic employee serving no purpose... ie a pencil pusher.

How, and for what reason, would Cypriots be in such a frequent contact with Greek bureaucrats that they would invent a nickname for them?

The Turks were the first to use this derogatory term ... and the Cypriots who suck up to the Turks followed suit

[Paphitis]

The word "Kalamaras" is an insult to the one who's using it, it literally means "scribbler" and the Cypriots used it to describe the mainland Greeks who, unlike the local villagers, knew how to read and write!

I thought 'kalamarades' was used to describe a superfluous bureaucratic employee serving no purpose... ie a pencil pusher.

How, and for what reason, would Cypriots be in such a frequent contact with Greek bureaucrats that they would invent a nickname for them?

The Turks were the first to use this derogatory term ... and the Cypriots who suck up to the Turks followed suit

That would make sense! It was a term to denote superior education and literacy.

[Oracle]

You are indeed pathetic Oracle. Whenever you desire sympathy you pretend that you do not know. You pretend that you swim in an ocean of ignorance. In this case however it is not your fault really. DT should have known better. When I referred to Photini I did so as in her capacity of President of the Cyprus Red Cross. After all, even fools like you Oracle cannot hide behind ignorance knowing that UN aid money is never paid to individuals but to organisations. In fact I have referred to this money on a number of occasions, especially during the infamous time of Papadopoulos's ambient atmosphere.

Photini is a multi billionaire and on a personal level she has no need for a few thousand dollars. However, some people have a need it seems, to deviate from the topic of the thread. DT does this quite regularly and mostly he criticises people in a very unproductive manner, instead of criticising the ideas that come out of people. In this thread he only saw Bananiot trying to undermine Photini and of course the crazy woman seconded him, right away.

Repulsewarrior, Nikos Rolandis is one of the few persons we have in this banana plantation that talks sense and for this reason you can expect a barrage of abuse from the pavement patriots, any moment now.

Piratis, when you accuse people that you disagree with you that they are the bearers of Turkish propaganda that is fascism. You have had a good teacher on this. Papadopoulos, while President of all Cypriots, claimed that 100 000 people that voted for solution were traitors. He told us that that they were paid good dollars for their treachery and it is up to them to prove that they were not paid! He said that the yes platform says in Greek what the enemy says in Turkish. He also claimed that we spend our time at the court of Xerxes, if you can understand the insinuation. Of course, your clock has stopped at the pre February 17th 2008 period and you find it hard to understand that the "other" opinion is no longer vilified, but, this is not my problem. Papadopoulos was sent packing mostly for his arrogance and his dead end policy on the Cyprob. When you claim that he was "naturally" sent home because people did the usual and voted for their party, you display total ignorance of the statistics of the last election which showed that a sizeable number of DIKO and EDEK members did not vote for Papadopoulos.

P.S. Perhaps you can tell us why you think Denktash opened the gates in 2003, Repulsewarrior.

Bananiot, you are free to critisice anyone you want for anything you want. I will correct you time and time again however when you make such assumptions about what people know and don't know. 90% of the people on this forum do not live in Cyprus and would not have known that Photini is the President of the Cyprus Red Cross. Saying she pocketed foreign money and assuming that everyone knows it was on behalf of the Red Cross is trying to mislead people.

I'm sorry if thats a problem for you but you need to be honest with people.

I would like to point out that Bananiot did not mention that Photini is the President of the Cypriot Red Cross in his initial post. Also, I myself had no idea that Photini was the President of the Cyprus Red Cross. Cypriots in the Diaspora can not be expected to have an in depth knowledge of Cypriot politics. Local knowledge is indeed lacking for many of us.

Therefore, my initial understanding of Bananiot's first post was that he was insinuating that Photini was on the take with UN aid money to Cyprus. Bananiot's deceptive propaganda almost achieved it's desired objective, until DT clarified the matter.

There you go Bananiot. Both Paphitis and Pantheman were misled.

But I was the first to be confused ..... and the most!

[DT.]

You are indeed pathetic Oracle. Whenever you desire sympathy you pretend that you do not know. You pretend that you swim in an ocean of ignorance. In this case however it is not your fault really. DT should have known better. When I referred to Photini I did so as in her capacity of President of the Cyprus Red Cross. After all, even fools like you Oracle cannot hide behind ignorance knowing that UN aid money is never paid to individuals but to organisations. In fact I have referred to this money on a number of occasions, especially during the infamous time of Papadopoulos's ambient atmosphere.

Photini is a multi billionaire and on a personal level she has no need for a few thousand dollars. However, some people have a need it seems, to deviate from the topic of the thread. DT does this quite regularly and mostly he criticises people in a very unproductive manner, instead of criticising the ideas that come out of people. In this thread he only saw Bananiot trying to undermine Photini and of course the crazy woman seconded him, right away.

Repulsewarrior, Nikos Rolandis is one of the few persons we have in this banana plantation that talks sense and for this reason you can expect a barrage of abuse from the pavement patriots, any moment now.

Piratis, when you accuse people that you disagree with you that they are the bearers of Turkish propaganda that is fascism. You have had a good teacher on this. Papadopoulos, while President of all Cypriots, claimed that 100 000 people that voted for solution were traitors. He told us that that they were paid good dollars for their treachery and it is up to them to prove that they were not paid! He said that the yes platform says in Greek what the enemy says in Turkish. He also claimed that we spend our time at the court of Xerxes, if you can understand the insinuation. Of course, your clock has stopped at the pre February 17th 2008 period and you find it hard to understand that the "other" opinion is no longer vilified, but, this is not my problem. Papadopoulos was sent packing mostly for his arrogance and his dead end policy on the Cyprob. When you claim that he was "naturally" sent home because people did the usual and voted for their party, you display total ignorance of the statistics of the last election which showed that a sizeable number of DIKO and EDEK members did not vote for Papadopoulos.

P.S. Perhaps you can tell us why you think Denktash opened the gates in 2003, Repulsewarrior.

Bananiot, you are free to critisice anyone you want for anything you want. I will correct you time and time again however when you make such assumptions about what people know and don't know. 90% of the people on this forum do not live in Cyprus and would not have known that Photini is the President of the Cyprus Red Cross. Saying she pocketed foreign money and assuming that everyone knows it was on behalf of the Red Cross is trying to mislead people.

I'm sorry if thats a problem for you but you need to be honest with people.

I would like to point out that Bananiot did not mention that Photini is the President of the Cypriot Red Cross in his initial post. Also, I myself had no idea that Photini was the President of the Cyprus Red Cross. Cypriots in the Diaspora can not be expected to have an in depth knowledge of Cypriot politics. Local knowledge is indeed lacking for many of us.

Therefore, my initial understanding of Bananiot's first post was that he was insinuating that Photini was on the take with UN aid money to Cyprus. Bananiot's deceptive propaganda almost achieved it's desired objective, until DT clarified the matter.

There you go Bananiot. Both Paphitis and Pantheman were misled.

But I was the first to be confused ..... and the most!

Apologies Oracle, had you down as constantly confused.

[Agios Ionas]

How, and for what reason, would Cypriots be in such a frequent contact with Greek bureaucrats that they would invent a nickname for them?

I know it's a derogatory term for mainland Greeks. And I know it essentially means 'educated people' so it's actually not an insult. But I also thought it was used as a derogatory description for bureaucrats in general. Especially when you have to deal with them and their inefficiency. Pencil pushers... (educated but good for nothing). I guess I was wrong then. I recall reading it somewhere though. Move on, nothing to see here.

[Oracle]

How, and for what reason, would Cypriots be in such a frequent contact with Greek bureaucrats that they would invent a nickname for them?

I know it's a derogatory term for mainland Greeks. And I know it essentially means 'educated people' so it's actually not an insult. But I also thought it was used as a derogatory description for bureaucrats in general. Especially when you have to deal with them and their inefficiency. Pencil pushers... (educated but good for nothing). I guess I was wrong then. I recall reading it somewhere though. Move on, nothing to see here.

Do you owe some innocent Official an apology now