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[Piratis]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

[Viewpoint]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

It all depends on who applies the principles of democracy and without safeguards and effective participation in a new order we will not unite and division will continue, we have 50% say in setting up a solution therefore we also have the right to say no to anything that you think you have the right to impose on us.

[Piratis]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

It all depends on who applies the principles of democracy and without safeguards and effective participation in a new order we will not unite and division will continue, we have 50% say in setting up a solution therefore we also have the right to say no to anything that you think you have the right to impose on us.

Principles of democracy depend on nothing. We don't want to impose anything on you. You are the 18%, not the 50%. If you do not want to live on our island under democracy as the minority you are, then you can go back from where you came from. We are not the ones who asked you to come to our island.

[Viewpoint]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

It all depends on who applies the principles of democracy and without safeguards and effective participation in a new order we will not unite and division will continue, we have 50% say in setting up a solution therefore we also have the right to say no to anything that you think you have the right to impose on us.

Principles of democracy depend on nothing. We don't want to impose anything on you. You are the 18%, not the 50%. If you do not want to live on our island under democracy as the minority you are, then you can go back from where you came from. We are not the ones who asked you to come to our island.

I come from this island and you will never run the whole of this island alone, we demand an effective say and the right to say no when the majority try to impose their "right" upon us just like you do in the EU against the will of millions of other Europeans.

[Piratis]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

It all depends on who applies the principles of democracy and without safeguards and effective participation in a new order we will not unite and division will continue, we have 50% say in setting up a solution therefore we also have the right to say no to anything that you think you have the right to impose on us.

Principles of democracy depend on nothing. We don't want to impose anything on you. You are the 18%, not the 50%. If you do not want to live on our island under democracy as the minority you are, then you can go back from where you came from. We are not the ones who asked you to come to our island.

I come from this island and you will never run the whole of this island alone, we demand an effective say and the right to say no when the majority try to impose their "right" upon us just like you do in the EU against the will of millions of other Europeans.

EU is not a country VP is this so difficult for you to understand.

How about this: You give to the Greek minority in Turkey what you ask from us, so they can protect themselves and have the right to say no when they disagree with the Turks, and then you can have the same in Cyprus. Do you agree?

[Viewpoint]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

It all depends on who applies the principles of democracy and without safeguards and effective participation in a new order we will not unite and division will continue, we have 50% say in setting up a solution therefore we also have the right to say no to anything that you think you have the right to impose on us.

Principles of democracy depend on nothing. We don't want to impose anything on you. You are the 18%, not the 50%. If you do not want to live on our island under democracy as the minority you are, then you can go back from where you came from. We are not the ones who asked you to come to our island.

I come from this island and you will never run the whole of this island alone, we demand an effective say and the right to say no when the majority try to impose their "right" upon us just like you do in the EU against the will of millions of other Europeans.

EU is not a country VP is this so difficult for you to understand.

How about this: You give to the Greek minority in Turkey what you ask from us, so they can protect themselves and have the right to say no when they disagree with the Turks, and then you can have the same in Cyprus. Do you agree?

Youd have to ask Turkey but if they have an internationally ratified agreement that gives them community rights then I would support them 100%.

[Piratis]

No mate, Cyprus is, and will always be, one single country, not a union of separate independent and sovereign countries as is the case of EU.

Democracy protects all minorities since their human and minority rights are not subject to removal. At the same time democracy means one person one vote and majority rule, which means that a minority has no power to impose anything against the will of the majority. You Turks don't know even know the most basic democratic principles.

It all depends on who applies the principles of democracy and without safeguards and effective participation in a new order we will not unite and division will continue, we have 50% say in setting up a solution therefore we also have the right to say no to anything that you think you have the right to impose on us.

Principles of democracy depend on nothing. We don't want to impose anything on you. You are the 18%, not the 50%. If you do not want to live on our island under democracy as the minority you are, then you can go back from where you came from. We are not the ones who asked you to come to our island.

I come from this island and you will never run the whole of this island alone, we demand an effective say and the right to say no when the majority try to impose their "right" upon us just like you do in the EU against the will of millions of other Europeans.

EU is not a country VP is this so difficult for you to understand.

How about this: You give to the Greek minority in Turkey what you ask from us, so they can protect themselves and have the right to say no when they disagree with the Turks, and then you can have the same in Cyprus. Do you agree?

Youd have to ask Turkey but if they have an internationally ratified agreement that gives them community rights then I would support them 100%.

Why do we have any agreement between us that give you a separate federal state and 50% power? Of course not.

So, give to the Greek minority 1/3rd of Turkey and 50% power and then come to ask the same from us. Until then stop demanding from us what you are not willing to give to your own minorities.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis if the Greeks in Turkey have such a claim and the UNs attention for them to find a solution I support them 100%, but as far as I am aware they have jack shit and no one takes a bit of notice of their claims, unlike TCs who have a number of attempts at finding a solution to outstanding problem that the whole world acknowledges that we to have valid rights.

[Piratis]

Piratis if the Greeks in Turkey have such a claim and the UNs attention for them to find a solution I support them 100%, but as far as I am aware they have jack shit and no one takes a bit of notice of their claims, unlike TCs who have a number of attempts at finding a solution to outstanding problem that the whole world acknowledges that we to have valid rights.

Are you saying that the Greek minority in Turkey do not have the right to protect themselves from the Turks but you have such rights in Cyprus???

You have the same rights as the Greek minority in Turkey. We do not accept double standards here.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis if the Greeks in Turkey have such a claim and the UNs attention for them to find a solution I support them 100%, but as far as I am aware they have jack shit and no one takes a bit of notice of their claims, unlike TCs who have a number of attempts at finding a solution to outstanding problem that the whole world acknowledges that we to have valid rights.

Are you saying that the Greek minority in Turkey do not have the right to protect themselves from the Turks but you have such rights in Cyprus???

You have the same rights as the Greek minority in Turkey. We do not accept double standards here.

They have every right, why do they not take their case to the UN and see if they get any support, tell them not to forget all their international agreements.