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Quintessentially English ....

Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:15 pm

Forget the British. :roll:

They are a heterogeneous mish-mash that we can all claim to be a little part of, because of their ubiquitous-ness.

But what of the English? :D

Those shy, retiring, quirky, elusive, unique natives of the United Kingdom. What have they contributed to the world? What was their vision before it became the nightmare that is the legacy of the British Empire.

What distinguishing attributes do you associate with the English? 8)

To see a World in a Grain of Sand,
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And Eternity in an hour.


William Blake

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:D Civilised debating only please. :D
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Postby DT. » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:28 pm

Their cuisine. Never liked curries and kebabs.
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Postby purdey » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:59 pm

The Glorious 12th.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:07 pm

They are very tolerant to foreigners, that's why they put up with Oracle.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:24 pm

Their kindness and readiness to put their hand in their pockets and support a worthwhile cause.Their happy go lucky approach to life , their tolerance , kindness to animals ,respecting other peoples cultures , readiness to laugh at themselves and their stiff upper lip .
Unfortunately they have amongst them , as other races have too but far more pronounced in Britain ,
the delinquent irresponsible yobs , mostly bastards with no respect for themselves or indeed society at large.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:17 pm

CBBB wrote:They are very tolerant to foreigners, that's why they put up with Oracle.


Personally, I think they kindly tolerate me as a curiosity :lol:

But on the contrary according to Jeremy Paxman ("The English"):

'Britannia may no longer rule the waves, but the English can still make foreigners feel small.'

That is unless you are Greek. :wink:

Amongst the English (not British!), the only ones deemed worthy of some parity, are the Greeks (not Cypriots!).

I think this harks back to some kinship with Lord Byron ....

The Isles of Greece

THE isles of Greece! the isles of Greece!
Where burning Sappho loved and sung,
Where grew the arts of war and peace,---
Where Delos rose and Phoebus sprung!
Eternal summer gilds them yet,
But all, except their sun, is set.

The Scian and the Teian muse,
The hero's harp, the lover's lute,
Have found the fame your shores refuse;
Their place of birth alone is mute
To sounds which echo further west
Than your sires' "Islands of the Blest."

The mountains look on Marathon---
And Marathon looks on the sea;
And musing there an hour alone,
I dream'd that Greece might yet be free
For, standing on the Persians' grave,
I could not deem myself a slave.

A king sat on the rocky brow
Which looks on sea-born Salamis;
And ships, by thousands, lay below,
And men in nations;---all were his!
He counted them at break of day---
And when the sun set, where were they?

And where are they? and where art thou,
My country? On thy voiceless shore
The heroic lay is tuneless now---
The heroic bosom beats no more!
And must thy lyre, so long divine,
Degenerate into hands like mine?

'Tis something, in the dearth of fame,
Though link'd among a fetter'd race,
To feel at least a patriot's shame,
Even as I sing, suffuse my face;
For what is left the poet here?
For Greeks a blush---for Greece a tear.

Must we but weep o'er days more blest?
Must we but blush?---Our fathers bled.
Earth! render back from out thy breast
A remnant of our Spartan dead!
Of the three hundred grant but three,
To make a new Thermopylae.

What, silent still, and silent all?
Ah! no; the voices of the dead
Sound like a distant torrent's fall,
And answer, "Let one living head,
But one arise,---we come, we come!"
'Tis but the living who are dumb.

In vain---in vain: strike other chords;
Fill high the cup of Samian wine!
Leave battles to the Turkish hordes,
And shed the blood of Scio's vine!
Hark! rising to the ignoble call---
How answers each bold bacchanal!

You have the Pyrrhic dance as yet,
Where is the Pyrrhic phalanx gone?
Of two such lessons, why forget
The nobler and the manlier one?
You have the letters Cadmus gave---
Think ye he meant them for a slave?

Fill high the bowl with Samian wine!
We will not think of themes like these!
It made Anacreon's song divine;
He served---but served Polycrates---
A tyrant; but our masters then
Were still, at least, our countrymen.

The tyrant of the Chersonese
Was freedom's best and bravest friend;
That tyrant was Miltiades!
Oh! that the present hour would lend
Another despot of the kind!
Such chains as his were sure to bind.

Fill high the bowl with Samian wine!
On Suli's rock, and Parga's shore,
Exists the remnant of a line
Such as the Doric mothers bore;
And there, perhaps, some seed is sown,
The Heracleidan blood might own.

Trust not for freedom to the Franks---
They have a king who buys and sells:
In native swords and native ranks,
The only hope of courage dwells:
But Turkish force and Latin fraud
Would break your shield, however broad.

Fill high the bowl with Samian wine!
Our virgins dance beneath the shade---
I see their glorious black eyes shine;
But, gazing on each glowing maid,
My own the burning tear-drop laves,
To think such breasts must suckle slaves.

Place me on Sunium's marble steep---
Where nothing, save the waves and I,
May hear our mutual murmurs sweep:
There, swan-like, let me sing and die;
A land of slaves shall ne'er be mine---
Dash down yon cup of Samian wine!
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Postby roseandchan » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 pm

when you say english, there are lots of different types of english who all have different attributes. its an area thing.london english are very different from manchester english.
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Postby purdey » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:49 pm

A huge difference Rose, what a shame the vast majority who visit England only see London.
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Postby RichardB » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:56 pm

What distinguishing attributes do you associate with the English? 8)




The ability have a cr*p football team yet still believe we are the best in the world

The ability to solve all the worlds problems over a nice cuppa char

To be the lapdog of the USA yet still believe we are a world power

The list is endless :lol:
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Postby purdey » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:03 pm

Humour, in some cases.
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