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Postby humanist » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:54 pm

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Turkey supposedly guarantees TC survival but balks when it comes to paying the cost, blackmails the TCs into naturalising mainlanders, accelerating their own extinction.


Nikitas, I believe you know how I respect your opinions on many issues discussed on here. However, on this occasion, I disagree. I don't think Turkey is blackmailing the TC's into anything. The TC's have brought ths one on for themselves and I am not going to go along with their victim role.

On the other hand I feel saddened that Cyprus' unique culture is at risk of getting lost along with the extinction of the Turkish speaking Cypriot community , customs and traditions.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:36 am

...there are many ways to resolve land disputes like these. the "property commission" is one of these. what bothers me about this commission is that those who decide have the same "ethnic" bias which has driven our Problem for so long. It is still a matter of "greek" Cypriots and "turkish" Cypriots. Here we see in the results, Justice, not seen, as such. Clearly, to offer these decisions, the credibility of the court is put in question, where, we can wonder how this commission can provide the starkest redress, when there are only "turks" on the bench.
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:39 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...there are many ways to resolve land disputes like these. the "property commission" is one of these. what bothers me about this commission is that those who decide have the same "ethnic" bias which has driven our Problem for so long. It is still a matter of "greek" Cypriots and "turkish" Cypriots. Here we see in the results, Justice, not seen, as such. Clearly, to offer these decisions, the credibility of the court is put in question, where, we can wonder how this commission can provide the starkest redress, when there are only "turks" on the bench.


Well saıd......The pure Greek bench ıs somethıng that I presume you support to do a much better job whılst sıngıng the Greek natıonal anthem and flyıng the Greek flag :roll: :roll:
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:09 am

...i imagine zan that a "Greek" court would do just as well, under the circumstances.

my point is that this commission was opened, we see the results, they are paltry. if it is the best they can do in terms of awards, due to economic reasons from political restaint, their credibility is on the line. having commissioners, in this case, "Greek" on the panel helps toward demonstrating their impartiality under these severe conditions.

for such a commission to be truly "fair", the sum of the value of all the land is declared available, so that those who will file are encouraged to believe that the work on their case will result in redress and equity.
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:14 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...i imagine zan that a "Greek" court would do just as well, under the circumstances.

my point is that this commission was opened, we see the results, they are paltry. if it is the best they can do in terms of awards, due to economic reasons from political restaint, their credibility is on the line. having commissioners, in this case, "Greek" on the panel helps toward demonstrating their impartiality under these severe conditions.

for such a commission to be truly "fair", the sum of the value of all the land is declared available, so that those who will file are encouraged to believe that the work on their case will result in redress and equity.


What ımportant commısıons are you offerıng ın the 'RoC' ın whıch TCs and Turks wıll be awarded sımılar posıtıons :?:
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:36 am

dude, if you have land in the south it is there for you as it was before you were displaced (or left). at least this much is true. there is no need for "commississions". In the south there is no desire like in the north to create an exclusive domain where the owners of the land have no chance to retake possession of it, if they so choose. in the south, there is the law and it is the same for anyone, who wants the return of land to which they have title.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:03 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:dude, if you have land in the south it is there for you as it was before you were displaced (or left). at least this much is true. there is no need for "commississions". In the south there is no desire like in the north to create an exclusive domain where the owners of the land have no chance to retake possession of it, if they so choose. in the south, there is the law and it is the same for anyone, who wants the return of land to which they have title.


If you ahve to reside in the osuth for 6 months before you can start a long legal battle to get your land back, so not as simple as you make out or wish.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:dude, if you have land in the south it is there for you as it was before you were displaced (or left). at least this much is true. there is no need for "commississions". In the south there is no desire like in the north to create an exclusive domain where the owners of the land have no chance to retake possession of it, if they so choose. in the south, there is the law and it is the same for anyone, who wants the return of land to which they have title.


If you ahve to reside in the osuth for 6 months before you can start a long legal battle to get your land back, so not as simple as you make out or wish.


Yeah its a shame you are not allowed to double dip, ain't it?...
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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:55 am

I'm sure the Republic of Cyprus as it stands today, would make it difficult for anyone to get title to land, it is very valuable. However in terms of legality, difficult as it may be, it is a working system that is equal for all.

...you get your land back probably, as it remains undeveloped after all these years, which may be fortunate with enclaves established across the whole geography, we hope to return, it is safe to say, we the displaced.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:49 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:I'm sure the Republic of Cyprus as it stands today, would make it difficult for anyone to get title to land, it is very valuable. However in terms of legality, difficult as it may be, it is a working system that is equal for all.

...you get your land back probably, as it remains undeveloped after all these years, which may be fortunate with enclaves established across the whole geography, we hope to return, it is safe to say, we the displaced.


Tell that to the TC whos land has refugees homes built on it.
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