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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby eracles » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:32 am

iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:46 pm

The fruitless passage of time without solution only serves the interests of the Turkish nationalists. The Greek nationalists claim that we should not be afraid of the passage of time (Arch. Chrysostomos dared to say this only two weeks ago) because they rather stupidly expect Turkey to brake its backbone one morning and then we would be able to claim everything back and of course fulfill our lifelong ambition. Similar brains fooled many people that one day Constantinople will be ours again but then this kind of thinking keeps alive the war flame and as any fool knows when it comes to war the outcome is never predictable. Beating the war drums will at best delay progress and at worst, prepare the next calamity.

Things can be taken care of only with a compromise solution that will allow our three countries to prosper in the area in an environemnt of solidarity and friendship, within the United Europe. Real patriots strive for this purpose only as it is the only option we have for survival. Listen to the pavement patriots and you might as well sign the death sentence of Cyprus.
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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:47 pm

eracles wrote:
iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.



Agreed. Very sloppy. I dont think TCs would accept annexation by Turkey as a solution. Even if it went to a referandum, older settlers would vote with TCs too. Has anyone asked how TCs would feel about this? I doubt it. As mentioned previously it would not be allowed. I think its a dangerous ploy to get the Greek side act more positively. A threat. :roll:
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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
eracles wrote:
iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.



Agreed. Very sloppy. I dont think TCs would accept annexation by Turkey as a solution. Even if it went to a referandum, older settlers would vote with TCs too. Has anyone asked how TCs would feel about this? I doubt it. As mentioned previously it would not be allowed. I think its a dangerous ploy to get the Greek side act more positively. A threat. :roll:


You mean Bananiot wrote that article? :shock: Let me check the author.
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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby halil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:06 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
eracles wrote:
iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.



Agreed. Very sloppy. I dont think TCs would accept annexation by Turkey as a solution. Even if it went to a referandum, older settlers would vote with TCs too. Has anyone asked how TCs would feel about this? I doubt it. As mentioned previously it would not be allowed. I think its a dangerous ploy to get the Greek side act more positively. A threat. :roll:


Deniz,
Majority of the TC wants to rule them self .not ruled by Turkey or Greek Cypriots , I can tell you this very clearly .That's why our leadership talks about compound states .

my sister daughter married to a settlers son . A month ago they went to Turkey for holiday with settlers family . They went to a YAYLA ((nomad's) summer camping ground) poor boy he couldn't stand at Yayla ...They returend back early .He said everything is very strange for him .
İ don't blame him ,because he grow up in here . Different culture ,different habits that's why i can say ,you are right most of them can vote like TC's does .
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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby boomerang » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:09 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
eracles wrote:
iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.



Agreed. Very sloppy. I dont think TCs would accept annexation by Turkey as a solution. Even if it went to a referandum, older settlers would vote with TCs too. Has anyone asked how TCs would feel about this? I doubt it. As mentioned previously it would not be allowed. I think its a dangerous ploy to get the Greek side act more positively. A threat. :roll:


But just say for the sake of throwing a spanner inthe works...

It "turkey=fascist state" did annex the North, what would the tcs do?

1...put up and become turkish citizens?
2...move to the free areas?...and if the move to the free areas what kind of a deal would they be expecting?

I always wondered about this...
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Postby halil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:12 pm

What we can see from international news articles , have a look at the most of the reporters names and surnames or family names .
to figure aut how accurate they are .they are all control from same head quarters .Same words ,same arguments....everything started at 74 ......blub ....blub ......
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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:16 pm

boomerang wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
eracles wrote:
iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.



Agreed. Very sloppy. I dont think TCs would accept annexation by Turkey as a solution. Even if it went to a referandum, older settlers would vote with TCs too. Has anyone asked how TCs would feel about this? I doubt it. As mentioned previously it would not be allowed. I think its a dangerous ploy to get the Greek side act more positively. A threat. :roll:


But just say for the sake of throwing a spanner inthe works...

It "turkey=fascist state" did annex the North, what would the tcs do?

1...put up and become turkish citizens?
2...move to the free areas?...and if the move to the free areas what kind of a deal would they be expecting?

I always wondered about this...


Civil unrest, definitely plus moving into their own properties in the south. Why not. The RoC would happily open its arms. :lol:


Accept this ? a definite OXI.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:18 pm

halil wrote:What we can see from international news articles , have a look at the most of the reporters names and surnames or family names .
to figure aut how accurate they are .they are all control from same head quarters .Same words ,same arguments....everything started at 74 ......blub ....blub ......


Did you squeeze extra hard for this one or what?...or is the ass coming out of you...
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Re: In Cyprus, Warm Words Conceal Dark Intentions

Postby boomerang » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:29 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
boomerang wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
eracles wrote:
iceman wrote:
kafenes wrote: Then came professional fighting in 1974 as mainland Turkish troops partitioned Cyprus, supposedly to create a temporary safe haven for the vulnerable Turkish Cypriot minority.

Next the 'Green Line' went up, closing Ledra Street, dividing both town and island. Until this April, central Ledra Street was pretty much deserted -- a place of wrecked and abandoned buildings and rusting, burnedout cars.


Someone should have told this idiot that Ledra Street was closed and the Green line drawn in 1963 NOT 1974!!


true...the article is quite sloppy.



Agreed. Very sloppy. I dont think TCs would accept annexation by Turkey as a solution. Even if it went to a referandum, older settlers would vote with TCs too. Has anyone asked how TCs would feel about this? I doubt it. As mentioned previously it would not be allowed. I think its a dangerous ploy to get the Greek side act more positively. A threat. :roll:


But just say for the sake of throwing a spanner inthe works...

It "turkey=fascist state" did annex the North, what would the tcs do?

1...put up and become turkish citizens?
2...move to the free areas?...and if the move to the free areas what kind of a deal would they be expecting?

I always wondered about this...


Civil unrest, definitely plus moving into their own properties in the south. Why not. The RoC would happily open its arms. :lol:


Accept this ? a definite OXI.


I don't think the RoC can refuse entry...but what kind of deal would the tcs expect?

PS...maybe bayarakhead can tell us...
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