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[roseandchan]

i had a boss who wanted sex for promotion. i gave him a shock when i told him i was taking my 2 weeks holiday now and that it was all the notice i was giving him before leaving. what a creep!

[Nikitas]

When working in a multi national I had figured that if you reward the function and not the person, a lot of problems would be automatically solved- ie the difference in pay between men and women, or between people recruited in the USA or Europe and those from third world countries. Not to mention the quality assessment of the work leading to promotions etc. Instead companies seem to reward the person and not the function. In the above company a sales engineer would get 65000 USD if recruited in the US, but only a third of that if recruited in India, but they both did the exact same thing. The non US nationals tended to have more skills, especially language skill, that were very useful in international sales so if anything they should get more than the Americans.

I mentioned this to the personnel director and he was visibly horrified. If the opinion had not been expressed simultaneously with a major accomplishment I think he would have had me fired.

To this day I cannot see the fault in the thought.

[roseandchan]

i think this is why all the uk banking services went to india, along with lots of the insurance services. much cheeper than the uk.

[boomerang]

The worse boss I ever worked for is myself...I seemed to be driving my self down to the ground with extremely long hrs...no employer made me work so bloody hard...

[GorillaGal]

The worse boss I ever worked for is myself...I seemed to be driving my self down to the ground with extremely long hrs...no employer made me work so bloody hard...

yeah, but i bet when you need to take a day off, or re-arrange your schedule to do something that needs taking care of, your boss seldom gives you a hard time about that!

[boomerang]

The worse boss I ever worked for is myself...I seemed to be driving my self down to the ground with extremely long hrs...no employer made me work so bloody hard...

yeah, but i bet when you need to take a day off, or re-arrange your schedule to do something that needs taking care of, your boss seldom gives you a hard time about that!

what day off?...you kidding me?

as far as taking care of foreigners, well you get the wife on it, coz you can't take the day off...

[GorillaGal]

The worse boss I ever worked for is myself...I seemed to be driving my self down to the ground with extremely long hrs...no employer made me work so bloody hard...

yeah, but i bet when you need to take a day off, or re-arrange your schedule to do something that needs taking care of, your boss seldom gives you a hard time about that!

what day off?...you kidding me?

as far as taking care of foreigners, well you get the wife on it, coz you can't take the day off...

hey, i work 7 days too. but when i have a doctor's appointment, or if i have a friend who needs to be picked up at the airport, i can usually arrange things. i know my boss is the best! and every halloween, we have a costume contest (good for office morale) and the best costume wins a vacation. i've won an alaskan cruise, a trip to spain and cyprus, and next contest is fot a belly dance cruise.

[Nikitas]

Boomerang echoes my experience with self employment. You forget weekends and holidays. At the moment I am freelancing, the last vacation I took was 1997 and even then it was a week. Hearing of teachers who take 3 months in the summer and two weeks at Christmas and Easter gives me the creeps. It cannot be healthy to have such long vacations! The stress and the boredom must be awesome!

[GorillaGal]

Boomerang echoes my experience with self employment. You forget weekends and holidays. At the moment I am freelancing, the last vacation I took was 1997 and even then it was a week. Hearing of teachers who take 3 months in the summer and two weeks at Christmas and Easter gives me the creeps. It cannot be healthy to have such long vacations! The stress and the boredom must be awesome!

than Nikitas and Boomerrang are both work-a-holics!
shoot, id work 7 days a week, 365 days a year, and my clients would love that. but i KNOW what is important. sure, my clients are important, but if i don't take care of myself, i can't take care of them. the world goes on, my business survives if i take a day or two off, or a week here and there. if you don't take care of yourself, no one else will. take it from soemone who is not supposed to be alive right now. life is precious. take a vacation, will you both? PLEASE!

[Crivens]

To this day I cannot see the fault in the thought

True. I mean even between the US and the UK there is a difference with certain jobs. When I last looked (a few years ago I admit) a programmer with my exact experience and position would have got about 50% more money in the US (this is a big generalisation as the US is a big place, but it seemed that way across the board).

On the other hand it can also depend on the living conditions in the country. I mean a programmer earning £50k in the UK would probably get not even a quarter of that living in India. But how much does it cost to live there? In India, and other places, I would imagine for £50k you could live almost like a king, whereas in the UK you are doing alright. Cyprus, as a good example to what you are saying, shows it is no longer much cheaper to live than in the UK, but the wages are still a *lot* lower.

The other thing to consider is the call for work where you live. Cyprus, for example, has a small population so the amount of money that can be generated in a non-international company will be limited compared to a company that can offer business, say, to the whole of the UK. Less money will mean less wages.

What is worrying is that the IT industry has it much easier than most other businesses in getting work from abroad. I mean with a webcam and decent link these days you can get a whole system programmed by a whole team in another country without ever meeting them in person. And they are getting a whole lot better at it than they used to. And this isn't just effecting the UK. A friend of mine works at a company in Cyprus, who is making a system for another company in Cyprus. It is worth a lot of money. However the Cyprus IT company is only getting a small part of that money, with most of it going to another company in another country who do all the coding, because it's a lot cheaper. What gets me is that if you bring in stuff you bought from other countries then you get taxed on it, mainly because you have taken away money from this country. Fair enough, but why don't they do it with the above example? They are getting something made in another country. No different really.

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