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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Agios Ionas » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:58 am

halil wrote:No Deniz ,
you have no rights to claim yours because you are not Greek Cypriot . Only they have .............


Bullshit Halil. You know very well that in the event of a fair solution everyone who lost property/land must be compensated in case they cannot reclaim what's theirs. If not it's not a fair solution. A TC is entitled to their property/land in the south already. And a GC should be able to reclaim what's theirs too. If the property/land for some reason cannot be reclaimed (as with Larnaca Airport) compensation gets paid once the red tape is sorted out.

In the event of a solution I'm 100% positive the TC farmer will get fair compensation for his lost land. Monetary or otherwise (new farming land).
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Postby halil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:24 am

Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:No Deniz ,
you have no rights to claim yours because you are not Greek Cypriot . Only they have .............


Bullshit Halil. You know very well that in the event of a fair solution everyone who lost property/land must be compensated in case they cannot reclaim what's theirs. If not it's not a fair solution. A TC is entitled to their property/land in the south already. And a GC should be able to reclaim what's theirs too. If the property/land for some reason cannot be reclaimed (as with Larnaca Airport) compensation gets paid once the red tape is sorted out.

In the event of a solution I'm 100% positive the TC farmer will get fair compensation for his lost land. Monetary or otherwise (new farming land).


do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:41 am

halil wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:DT are you suggesting that the Turkish Cypriots of the north should be dwelling only in Turkish Cypriot houses built on Turkish Cypriot land? May be you can also suggest that the Turkish army moves out of barracks that have been built on Greek Cypriot land.

Perhaps, if they do not comply we should cease all contacts and negotiations with them, at least temporaly until 2010, when Ertogruroglu comes to power when there would be no hope for solution.

P.S. Pity Erdogan survived, have you seen the tears of the rejectionists (on both sides of the divide)?



I bet non of the above who are complaining about the wedding of the young couple, have never used Larnaca Airport. What hypocrisy. :roll:


All land in Cyprus is ultimately under the final custodianship of the RoC .... we are only here transiently, and hopefully the invaders even more so.



In the event that the peace talks are successful, you will see that the occupation of the north 'was' transient'. At least I hope so, or at least there will be compensation, like there will be in the south with TC properties.


No Deniz ,
you have no rights to claim yours because you are not Greek Cypriot . Only they have .............



If that is so Halil, lets hope it will change. :lol:
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Postby Agios Ionas » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:42 am

halil wrote:do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .


Yes! First of all Deniz should be able to reclaim his land and keep it or sell it.

If it can't be reclaimed because the RoC has used it for something (whatever it may be) he should be offered land equal in size somewhere else. Land located in similar surroundings and with equal 'attractiveness' as the land he originally owned. I also think he should get the opportunity to choose between land or monetary compensation.

This is what I think. This is the only fair solution to these kind of problems. Perhaps some people do not agree with me. But I will always advocate that GC's and TC's alike should get what's theirs or reasonable compensation to be given.

I am not a politician. I'm not in charge. I'm just a grass root nobody with nothing but my personal opinions and no money or power to enforce them.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:04 pm

halil wrote:
Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:No Deniz ,
you have no rights to claim yours because you are not Greek Cypriot . Only they have .............


Bullshit Halil. You know very well that in the event of a fair solution everyone who lost property/land must be compensated in case they cannot reclaim what's theirs. If not it's not a fair solution. A TC is entitled to their property/land in the south already. And a GC should be able to reclaim what's theirs too. If the property/land for some reason cannot be reclaimed (as with Larnaca Airport) compensation gets paid once the red tape is sorted out.

In the event of a solution I'm 100% positive the TC farmer will get fair compensation for his lost land. Monetary or otherwise (new farming land).


do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .



Halil, I have paid the RoC £37,000 of taxes to claim my land which I have not used since 1963. That was two years ago. Now I am entitled to claim. I still have no deeds. I suppose I am lucky I had the funds to pay these past taxes.
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Postby halil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:05 pm

Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .


Yes! First of all Deniz should be able to reclaim his land and keep it or sell it.

If it can't be reclaimed because the RoC has used it for something (whatever it may be) he should be offered land equal in size somewhere else. Land located in similar surroundings and with equal 'attractiveness' as the land he originally owned. I also think he should get the opportunity to choose between land or monetary compensation.

This is what I think. This is the only fair solution to these kind of problems. Perhaps some people do not agree with me. But I will always advocate that GC's and TC's alike should get what's theirs or reasonable compensation to be given.

I am not a politician. I'm not in charge. I'm just a grass root nobody with nothing but my personal opinions and no money or power to enforce them.


I am with you on this one .
let see what the Deniz will say .
May be he wants to return back to his home .What will happened all those years that he didn't use his property . Don't you think he should compensated since 1963 . not from 74 . he was drown from his place since 1963 .
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Postby halil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:06 pm

halil wrote:
Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .


Yes! First of all Deniz should be able to reclaim his land and keep it or sell it.

If it can't be reclaimed because the RoC has used it for something (whatever it may be) he should be offered land equal in size somewhere else. Land located in similar surroundings and with equal 'attractiveness' as the land he originally owned. I also think he should get the opportunity to choose between land or monetary compensation.

This is what I think. This is the only fair solution to these kind of problems. Perhaps some people do not agree with me. But I will always advocate that GC's and TC's alike should get what's theirs or reasonable compensation to be given.

I am not a politician. I'm not in charge. I'm just a grass root nobody with nothing but my personal opinions and no money or power to enforce them.


I am with you on this one .
let see what the Deniz will say .
May be he wants to return back to his home .What will happened all those years that he didn't use his property . Don't you think he should compensated since 1963 . not from 74 . he was drown from his place since 1963 .
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:11 pm

Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .


Yes! First of all Deniz should be able to reclaim his land and keep it or sell it.

If it can't be reclaimed because the RoC has used it for something (whatever it may be) he should be offered land equal in size somewhere else. Land located in similar surroundings and with equal 'attractiveness' as the land he originally owned. I also think he should get the opportunity to choose between land or monetary compensation.

This is what I think. This is the only fair solution to these kind of problems. Perhaps some people do not agree with me. But I will always advocate that GC's and TC's alike should get what's theirs or reasonable compensation to be given.

I am not a politician. I'm not in charge. I'm just a grass root nobody with nothing but my personal opinions and no money or power to enforce them.



You are never a nobody Ionas. Your vote counts. Simple as that. :lol:
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Postby halil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:13 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
halil wrote:
Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:No Deniz ,
you have no rights to claim yours because you are not Greek Cypriot . Only they have .............


Bullshit Halil. You know very well that in the event of a fair solution everyone who lost property/land must be compensated in case they cannot reclaim what's theirs. If not it's not a fair solution. A TC is entitled to their property/land in the south already. And a GC should be able to reclaim what's theirs too. If the property/land for some reason cannot be reclaimed (as with Larnaca Airport) compensation gets paid once the red tape is sorted out.

In the event of a solution I'm 100% positive the TC farmer will get fair compensation for his lost land. Monetary or otherwise (new farming land).


do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .



Halil, I have paid the RoC £37,000 of taxes to claim my land which I have not used since 1963. That was two years ago. Now I am entitled to claim. I still have no deeds. I suppose I am lucky I had the funds to pay these past taxes.


Good luck Deniz ,
I hope more TC's will do like you and these claims might force to ROC leaders to think twice again and try to find solution as soon as possible .We , the TC's must apply everyday for our properties losses that we have lost since 1963 .... these claims might change direction of the Cyprus problem .
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:21 pm

halil wrote:
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halil wrote:
Agios Ionas wrote:
halil wrote:No Deniz ,
you have no rights to claim yours because you are not Greek Cypriot . Only they have .............


Bullshit Halil. You know very well that in the event of a fair solution everyone who lost property/land must be compensated in case they cannot reclaim what's theirs. If not it's not a fair solution. A TC is entitled to their property/land in the south already. And a GC should be able to reclaim what's theirs too. If the property/land for some reason cannot be reclaimed (as with Larnaca Airport) compensation gets paid once the red tape is sorted out.

In the event of a solution I'm 100% positive the TC farmer will get fair compensation for his lost land. Monetary or otherwise (new farming land).


do you mean that Deniz can claim compensation for his land which he is not using since 1963 .



Halil, I have paid the RoC £37,000 of taxes to claim my land which I have not used since 1963. That was two years ago. Now I am entitled to claim. I still have no deeds. I suppose I am lucky I had the funds to pay these past taxes.


Good luck Deniz ,
I hope more TC's will do like you and these claims might force to ROC leaders to think twice again and try to find solution as soon as possible .We , the TC's must apply everyday for our properties losses that we have lost since 1963 .... these claims might change direction of the Cyprus problem .



Thanks for the wishes. I cant imagine it will alter the current negotiations though. Whereever on the island you have property, it will never get lost as long as you have the original deeds. (save a few instances where property has been 'misappropriated' by the 'legal authorities'). :lol:
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