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[tayl0r]

Please oh please dont judge every british and english man on what you have seen. If i asked you about the irish struggle or the invasion of vikings im sure your take on it would be quite different to mine.

[Oracle]

Well there we go

A Brits eye view of the Cyprus problem!!

There are probably around 200 active members on this Forum

Probably 30% are Brits/expat Brits which equals around 70 persons if we include 2 Brit expats living in the North (VP and roseandchan) who had every right to post their opinions on this topic and 3 others Myself , Rotate and Juliesewell who reside / have resided in the South. Then I would presume from the response to this thread that only a maximum of 5% of the expat community actually give a sh*t about the CyProb

Quiet pathetic in MHO

Regards to all

Richard Frederick Booth

Aside from the fact SSBubbles did not retract her views of the north as being a bit of "Turkey" ... I too am surprised so few have been willing to confess to being here for more than "what they can get for themselves".

I understand as people get to retirement age, they may wish to distance themselves from politics and have a "sod it all" lifestyle, enjoying the pool and sun ... but it grieves me so, that the country may soon fill up with the hedonists who could not care less about the fate of the Island ... or I guess worse still, like SSBubbles view it as bit of Cyprus and a bit of Turkey.

Thank goodness for people like you and Juliesewell (and a few others I know) who remain rational thinking Humans to their dying day......

[Oracle]

Yassu Oracle,
I only posted there once when someone asked about buying property and I said did they realise that it was an illegal occupation and that title deeds needed to be seen to make sure that the property was legit. So I was being political and the thread was stopped. Since then I only look on the TRNC forum.
I don't live in Cyprus but when on holiday I stay in the house of a friend who also doesn't reside there but spends a lot of time there (outside Paphos) and is very aware of the situation.
I have to say that in 74 I was 23, young, ignorant and self centred. My husband was going to be posted to Akrotiri (he was a pilot in the Air Force) and because of the invasion we couldn't go. I remember being annoyed but didn't think anything about what was actually happening.
I have been going to Greece for years but only to Cyprus since 2004 and so only really aware of the situation since then.
I hope for a resolution but, not being Cypriot, I really don't know what this could be and how it could be achieved.
Sorry not to be more helpful.

Thanks koritsi. Good going! I really wish for better future relations between Britain and Cyprus since my son is half Scottish.

[rotate]

I really wish for better future relations between Britain and Cyprus since my son is half Scottish.

Same here, with adult children who are the result of our Anglo Cypriot union and personal peace initive we've hoped for a better understanding between our two peoples. Its never going to happen but what the **** we enjoyed the roller coaster ride and are stronger for it.

And to all those detractors of such a union both British and Cypriot I would point out that the Doctor who next saves your life or perhaps more importantly that of your child just might be one of our two sons.

[roseandchan]

i always care about what happens here, as it is my home now. i try hard to help some of the less educated tc's to try to understand lots of what is happening on both sides of the island. along with the views of both sides. i take them to the south shopping, maybe that sounds shallow but that way they meet gc's and chat and understand that those in the south are not so bad after all. all those people on this forum who say they would never go north, need to try and give the idea a go. maybe they might just like it. until both sides start to mix more, how could they ever begin to believe that they could live together.

[Viewpoint]

i always care about what happens here, as it is my home now. i try hard to help some of the less educated tc's to try to understand lots of what is happening on both sides of the island. along with the views of both sides. i take them to the south shopping, maybe that sounds shallow but that way they meet gc's and chat and understand that those in the south are not so bad after all. all those people on this forum who say they would never go north, need to try and give the idea a go. maybe they might just like it. until both sides start to mix more, how could they ever begin to believe that they could live together.

I personally do not think the opening of the borders and mixing of the 2 communities has helped bring the 2 people closer together we trust one another even less today than we did when the borders were closed.

[Oracle]

i always care about what happens here, as it is my home now. i try hard to help some of the less educated tc's to try to understand lots of what is happening on both sides of the island. along with the views of both sides. i take them to the south shopping, maybe that sounds shallow but that way they meet gc's and chat and understand that those in the south are not so bad after all. all those people on this forum who say they would never go north, need to try and give the idea a go. maybe they might just like it. until both sides start to mix more, how could they ever begin to believe that they could live together.

Rose ... I am sorry, but that is a really shallow view ..... It is not because the GCs do not like the "north" that they stay away ... it is because it is part of our country ... to some 200,000, it is their rightful homes and land ...

We stay away through necessity because it is occupied and we object ... We stay away because of the sad memories ..... all sorts, but we do not stay away because we "do not want to give it a go" ... it is not a game!

It is our country and we want it back ... not to have a go ... but to live there, under democratic principles.

[vaughanwilliams]

As an exPat my impression is that the TC's have had to do something to survive since 1974 and if that means selling land formerly occupied by GC's then, regretable as that is, that is what they have had to do. They have not had support from anyone other than Turkey since 1963. The EU has lied to them more recently when they promised to lift their isolation for a "yes" in the 2004 referendum. That never happened. They have never been allowed free access in and out of the island and this has hindered their tourist industry, their only alternative to selling land and construction. Many TC's have been forced to leave the island since 1963 and again after 1974, and this depopulation void has been filled by settlers. What did you expect?
It seems to me that the TC's have been forced into a corner over the years and the people who did the forcing are surprised at the backlash. There has never been a situation where the Turkish Army felt enough progress had been made for them to go home, nor have the TC's wanted them to. From the tone of some of the posts here, their fears about this are well warranted.
I support them wholeheartedly in their struggle for full and proper representation on their shared island.
They are Cypriots, just as much as GC's are.

[roseandchan]

i see what your saying o, but unless the two sides start mixing,making friends and trusting each other, how can there ever be a solution? i understand the reasons why most gc's don't come north but this is 2008. is it not about time both sides showed a little forgiveness and made a big effort to move on? stop dwelling on the past and look to the future. a future where cyprus is united as one island and one nation of people. even though this side is occupied, on a daily basis it doesn't rearly effect the running of things. one day hopefully turkey will go home. this shouldn't stop gc's coming here. if it does then turkey is still achieving its goal. why would you let them do that? cypriots should be calling the shots not turkey. the mixing of the two communties can achieve a solution but it is down to them to do this. we can only try to reason with them and try to help.