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I'm not a Brit, so I cannot speak for them, but I think that the question you state is mainly a problem of how the "Cyprus problem" is reflected all over the world,
In countries like mine (with no Cypriots at all) people thinks that in fact the North IS PART OF TURKEY!!! I have explained to my friends several times that the occupied area is not a province or something but a "Country without law" not belonging to any other state and not being recognized by anyone, but this is not what you read in our press when (occasionally) news from Cyprus are published.

Spanish_spinne thank you for that enlightening viewpoint from Spain, our fellow EU country.

It is as I feared that the views of the ones who disregard the difficult situation and throw caution to the wind for an easy life to get their cheap Turkish jewellery in the north and have their authentic taste of Turkey in what is the ethnically cleansed and occupied part of our country and describe it as part of Turkey are the real enemies of our struggle.

And they choose to live amongst us .... to have the best of "both" worlds ...

[SSBubbles]

Hi O

Back in after a night out with our Cypriot friends!

I refuse to be your 'patsy'!

As Cyprus is so multi-national - please rephrase your question!!?!!?!!?!? Just to show no 'prejudice towards the 'Brits'!

Again, I implore you to look at your fellow countrymen first! for an answer!

[juliesewell]

I must admit I have heard a number of people refer to TRNC as the "Turkish" half....

Possibly not because they feel it belongs to Turkey but, having visited 3 or 4 Turkish resorts on holiday and in my previous line of work before I left the UK, then taking a couple of trips to Kyrenia and getting off the harbour area, it does look and feel very much like any of the resorts we visited in Turkey.

It doesn't help that the names of the resorts, streets etc have all been changed. You need to have 2 maps to be able to work out where you are. How else would anyone know that Kyrenia becomes Girne when you reach the "other" side?

We've only ever visited for a few hours at a time and there's nothing there that would encourage me to stay for any length of time. We've been about 4 times since we came to live in Cyprus and other than more building work, nothing much has changed.

A lot of the comments made about other countries (not just Cyprus) is purely made out of ignorance. A lot of travellers coming on holiday have no idea Cyprus is still a divided country - that's if they ever knew it was divided in the first place.

The first time I came on holiday here in 1985, I had to look up where Cyprus was! But, when you had a choice of 2 weeks in Gran Canaria or 3 weeks in Cyprus - it won hands down! From then on, I read as much as I could about the place and we hired a car to visit Dyrenia so we could look across at Famagusta from the view point cafe there. Our natural curiosity to see a still divided city took us there.

The very first time we crossed into the TRNC was at Ledra Palace UN point in 1992 on foot, when you had to pay Cy£1 to the police checkpoint.

[Oracle]

Those comments were made by you SSBubbles and you have said nothing to justify them.

Therefore you view and treat the occupied part of Cyprus as an extension / part of Turkey. This is clearly wrong and something which needs to be remedied.

The British are integral to the Cyprus Problem both at inception, continuation and worsening; and unfortunately, essential to a final solution. Indeed the ones which caused the problems fall into your camp.

I wonder how prevalent this view is amongst British people?

....... and as in your case, worryingly amongst those living in the RoC, who should be fully aware of the struggle the GCs have.

So there is no need for a topic diversion, it is the British point of view I would like to gather. That doesn't make it discriminatory, merely reductionist, by design.

Richard has given us a heartening, contrasting view, one much as I innocently thought Brits in Cyprus felt.

Until one by one, a different picture emerged from reading the posts you have been making. A prevalent insidious undercurrent of not just callous indifference to the Cyprus Problem, but destructive pro-Turkey support.

Since you cannot justify regarding the occupied section as part of Turkey ... then we accept that as your view and you can move along.

But your pretence is over as far as I am concerned, and many of your comments make more sense now that I realise you are pro-Turkey and look forward to your easy visits to "Turkey", just across the other "side".

The ease by which Brits/others living in the RoC can nip over the border for a taste of Turkey perhaps has to be addressed, if this view is not exclusive to SSBubbles.

[roseandchan]

afternoon o, we have travelled to turkey,greece the greek islands, also both north and south cyprus. we chose to live here in north cyprus. we would hope that a solution will be found for cyprus for all cypriots. we spend time both in the north and the south. all we hope is that in the event of a solution the overdevelopment will not come to the north on the scale that it has in the south. many expats here are after a quick buck, thats not the case with us. we like living here. if you came to our village which you are more than welcome to do, you would see that not all expats are out for themselves. our standard of living has dropped loads since living here, but we still stay because we actually like cyprus.

[kafenes]

afternoon o, we have travelled to turkey,greece the greek islands, also both north and south cyprus. we chose to live here in north cyprus. we would hope that a solution will be found for cyprus for all cypriots. we spend time both in the north and the south. all we hope is that in the event of a solution the overdevelopment will not come to the north on the scale that it has in the south. many expats here are after a quick buck, thats not the case with us. we like living here. if you came to our village which you are more than welcome to do, you would see that not all expats are out for themselves. our standard of living has dropped loads since living here, but we still stay because we actually like cyprus.

Roseandchan, you just contradicted yourself by calling it 'north and south cyprus'.

[roseandchan]

but that is what it is as it stands now. when people ask me where i live , i say cyprus. they usually ask which side. north or south or greek or turkish cyprus.

[kafenes]

but that is what it is as it stands now. when people ask me where i live , i say cyprus. they usually ask which side. north or south or greek or turkish cyprus.

In that case your answer should be ' the turkish occupied side'.

[roseandchan]

or the trnc. turkish republic of northern cyprus. i have been to turkey and don't see the trnc as part of turkey at all. also my turkish friends don't see cyprus as part of turkey either. in fact most turkish people i meet don't like cyprus or cypriot people.

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Here's a long term 'British ex-pats eye view' of the Cyprus Problem,

Cyprus was has and continues to be wronged.

Any ex-pat, British or otherwise living in the RoC who through ignorance or arrogance fails to agree should seriously consider re-locating elsewhere. By not supporting the legality of the RoC and Cypriots of all denominations and ethnicities to enjoy what is rightfully theirs we perpetuate an injustice and are rightly considered a fifth column.

Blame anyone you wish for the Cyprus Problem, Ottoman Czarist Russian British American Soviets Greek Junta secular Turkish or even Cypriot, no one emerges with much if any credit.
If you choose freely to live within the RoC accept your moral responsibility to support the State and its people.

Yes, I've been to the other side since 74, once and then only at the behest of a foreign client and against my better judgement. We encountered some difficulties and were 'rescued' by a Cypriot lady who apologetically explained that the people we had a problem with were not Cypriot. We left, suitably un-impressed our visit being no longer than a couple of hours. I shall not return there until the Cyprus Problem is resolved.