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Greek expansionism.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Sotos » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:50 am

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Nikitas wrote:Superior nation, as in a better state of being than an Ottoman serf, sure, why not? Without such aspirations no nation moves forward. That is how the United States came into being, and most of the republics of the world who threw off colonial rule.

As for being direct descendants of Byzantine Greeks, well you have the records of the Ottoman empire itself as proof. They are detailed and since they are tax related record all kinds of data and prove beyond all doubt the continuity of birth, death, property devolution from the Byzantine era till the liberation.

There is also Greek language and culture in Italy, an area the Italians call Magna Grecia, Greater Greece, where the continuity is from the pre Byzantine era, and you know what, their 2000 year old dialect sounds a lot like Cypriot dialect proving that there is traceable continuity from even before the Byzantines.


Should Turkey then have aspirations to all the Turkic nations then Nikitas. :?


Are you sure the majorities of those other nations think of themselves as Turks and want to join Turkey? I am sure if they wanted to they would.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:55 am

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mehmet wrote:Bloody hell Zan, your postings are getting more and more prolific. Put that laptop down and enjoy your time back in Cyprus.

Hi Mehmet , I think Zan is desperately trying , as all extremists are- to stir up as much shit as possible .It is his way of saying to the Cypriot people that we can not live together , so that in years to come more bloody conflicts more flag waving more dead men women and children. Does he not understand that the overwhelming majority of Cypriots want nothing more than peace and tranquility on the island of Cyprus .
Show respect and you will be respected. I'm proud to say that those T/C that I have met both here and in Cyprus reciprocate the respect that I offer them . The fanatics are like flies they search for the tiniest piece of crap so that they can lay lay their rotten eggs.
Zan is on a losing battle , the end of the division is on sight , the begining of the Cypriot nation is now a reality.


As long as the unification is fair then I am all for it but the likes of you are not looking for fairness, only adding to your take over of our government.
What I am doing is trying to strike a balance between the crap that people like Piratis and Kifeas post about Turkish expansionism and the actual expansionism of Greek expectations. Not so much stiring shit but pointing out facts that you do not want to face up to and have not been taught because of Greek propaganda as stated in the original post. you guys are so brain washed that you cannot accept a single truth that puts you in bad light and explains the Cyprob. You resort to insults and exclusion of anyone that points them out and we are to trust you. You show the same mentality of those Greeks marauding through the streets and killing TCs just because they are TC. Must run in the blood. :roll: Let me have my say and correct me if I am wrong. Your exclusive club is becoming ever more exclusive and is presently to the tune of one. whenis your next meeting!!!
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:57 am

Sotos wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Superior nation, as in a better state of being than an Ottoman serf, sure, why not? Without such aspirations no nation moves forward. That is how the United States came into being, and most of the republics of the world who threw off colonial rule.

As for being direct descendants of Byzantine Greeks, well you have the records of the Ottoman empire itself as proof. They are detailed and since they are tax related record all kinds of data and prove beyond all doubt the continuity of birth, death, property devolution from the Byzantine era till the liberation.

There is also Greek language and culture in Italy, an area the Italians call Magna Grecia, Greater Greece, where the continuity is from the pre Byzantine era, and you know what, their 2000 year old dialect sounds a lot like Cypriot dialect proving that there is traceable continuity from even before the Byzantines.


Should Turkey then have aspirations to all the Turkic nations then Nikitas. :?


Are you sure the majorities of those other nations think of themselves as Turks and want to join Turkey? I am sure if they wanted to they would.


Explain your problems with Macedonia then Sotos. why doesn't Greece leave those people alone??? :roll: :roll:
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Postby Sotos » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:02 am

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Superior nation, as in a better state of being than an Ottoman serf, sure, why not? Without such aspirations no nation moves forward. That is how the United States came into being, and most of the republics of the world who threw off colonial rule.

As for being direct descendants of Byzantine Greeks, well you have the records of the Ottoman empire itself as proof. They are detailed and since they are tax related record all kinds of data and prove beyond all doubt the continuity of birth, death, property devolution from the Byzantine era till the liberation.

There is also Greek language and culture in Italy, an area the Italians call Magna Grecia, Greater Greece, where the continuity is from the pre Byzantine era, and you know what, their 2000 year old dialect sounds a lot like Cypriot dialect proving that there is traceable continuity from even before the Byzantines.


Should Turkey then have aspirations to all the Turkic nations then Nikitas. :?


Are you sure the majorities of those other nations think of themselves as Turks and want to join Turkey? I am sure if they wanted to they would.


Explain your problems with Macedonia then Sotos. why doesn't Greece leave those people alone??? :roll: :roll:


When did Greece had any problem with its Macedonia region? :? The Macedonian Greeks never had any problem with any other Greeks. The only problem is with some Slavs that want to be called Macedonians while they are not so they can have claims on the Greek territory.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:14 am

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zan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Superior nation, as in a better state of being than an Ottoman serf, sure, why not? Without such aspirations no nation moves forward. That is how the United States came into being, and most of the republics of the world who threw off colonial rule.

As for being direct descendants of Byzantine Greeks, well you have the records of the Ottoman empire itself as proof. They are detailed and since they are tax related record all kinds of data and prove beyond all doubt the continuity of birth, death, property devolution from the Byzantine era till the liberation.

There is also Greek language and culture in Italy, an area the Italians call Magna Grecia, Greater Greece, where the continuity is from the pre Byzantine era, and you know what, their 2000 year old dialect sounds a lot like Cypriot dialect proving that there is traceable continuity from even before the Byzantines.


Should Turkey then have aspirations to all the Turkic nations then Nikitas. :?


Are you sure the majorities of those other nations think of themselves as Turks and want to join Turkey? I am sure if they wanted to they would.


Explain your problems with Macedonia then Sotos. why doesn't Greece leave those people alone??? :roll: :roll:


When did Greece had any problem with its Macedonia region? :? The Macedonian Greeks never had any problem with any other Greeks. The only problem is with some Slavs that want to be called Macedonians while they are not so they can have claims on the Greek territory.


Amazing!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:49 am

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Postby Nikitas » Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:44 am

Back in the Ozal days there were attempts to embrace the Turkich republics of centra Asia, and Ozal was told in no uncertain terms "we are the true Turks".

Greece will not accept the use of the name Macedonia, unqualified by an adjective. As a geographic region Macedonia is shared by Greece, Bulgaria and Skopje. The Bulgarians recognised the country but will not accept that there is a Macedonian ethnic identity. And they have a point, the so called Macedonian language has fewer differences with Bulgarian than GC dialect has with Greek. Before this Macedonia debacle the language was called western Bulgarian dialect. Bulgaria is also undermining Skopje by granting Bulgarian passports to all so called Macedonians who apply. And lets us not forget that 1/3 of the population is Albanian and they resent the title Macedonian. It looks like Bulgaria and Albania will have a common border right in the middle of Skopje some day.
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Postby Rebel.Without.A.Pause » Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:59 am

had to keep oput of the sun yesterday for health reasons so I got bored.


Zan please go back in the sun.
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Postby DT. » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:19 pm

Rebel.Without.A.Pause wrote:
had to keep oput of the sun yesterday for health reasons so I got bored.


Zan please go back in the sun.


Seems that he's already spent too much time under it.
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Postby Sotos » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:19 pm

Back in the Ozal days there were attempts to embrace the Turkich republics of centra Asia, and Ozal was told in no uncertain terms "we are the true Turks".

Which is true. Those people of central Asian republics at least look Mongolic like real Turks should be. It is funny when the Turks are telling us that we are not Greeks when it is OBVIOUS just by looking at them that they are not real Turks :lol:
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