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FIFA, UEFA make offer to Northern Cyprus

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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:34 am

utu wrote:Sounds like the idea is a non-starter then. Pity. Sport would be an ideal ground-breaker, like the 'ping-pong' diplomacy of USA and China...


All sports comes with rules utu, and one needs to abide by them if they want to be part of it, and the rules of the FIFA and UEFA are, that in order for any matches to be staged in the north, the CTFA must sign a document whereby they recognise the CFA and agree to become members, since all the territory is only recognised as Cyprus by the UN and the EU, and the CFA as the only official body. These are the rules, and everyone involved knows the rules. The only question that remains to be answered is, are they prepared to play by the rules, that's all.!
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Postby utu » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:41 pm

Kikapu wrote:
utu wrote:Sounds like the idea is a non-starter then. Pity. Sport would be an ideal ground-breaker, like the 'ping-pong' diplomacy of USA and China...


All sports comes with rules utu, and one needs to abide by them if they want to be part of it, and the rules of the FIFA and UEFA are, that in order for any matches to be staged in the north, the CTFA must sign a document whereby they recognise the CFA and agree to become members, since all the territory is only recognised as Cyprus by the UN and the EU, and the CFA as the only official body. These are the rules, and everyone involved knows the rules. The only question that remains to be answered is, are they prepared to play by the rules, that's all.!


That may be, but there would have to be concessions from both sides. Turkish Cypriots will not stand for seeing the ROC flag and hearing the Greek Anthem at games. The south may have to opt for the "China Taipei" model of sporting flag and neutalist anthem as their compromise.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:35 pm

utu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
utu wrote:Sounds like the idea is a non-starter then. Pity. Sport would be an ideal ground-breaker, like the 'ping-pong' diplomacy of USA and China...


All sports comes with rules utu, and one needs to abide by them if they want to be part of it, and the rules of the FIFA and UEFA are, that in order for any matches to be staged in the north, the CTFA must sign a document whereby they recognise the CFA and agree to become members, since all the territory is only recognised as Cyprus by the UN and the EU, and the CFA as the only official body. These are the rules, and everyone involved knows the rules. The only question that remains to be answered is, are they prepared to play by the rules, that's all.!


That may be, but there would have to be concessions from both sides. Turkish Cypriots will not stand for seeing the ROC flag and hearing the Greek Anthem at games. The south may have to opt for the "China Taipei" model of sporting flag and neutalist anthem as their compromise.


Utu, my darling, since you seem to have an opinion as to how the TC's sports problems must be solved, can you also make some suggestion, if you have an opinion, as to how the problem of me and the other 200,000 GC refugee's, 35 years long human rights violation problems, should be solved? Do you have anything to propose on that, or you only know about how the TC’s sporting problems can be solved? Does the “Taiwan formula” have anything too, for the 200 K GC refugees that have been striped off their properties, homes, villages, culture and history, for 35 long years now?
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Postby Medman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:15 am

FIFA and UEFA just haven't got the balls to sort out this issue. They keep sidestepping it, just like the EU when it comes to the island. Politics and Sport are not supposed to mix according to their own doctrines. This issue will not be solved because the poitical issues regarding Cyprus are still there. You have to love this forum for the magnitude of ignorance and arrogance from the people on it. Yes even from me. Well done to the sane ones who are still not riddled with prejudice and hate and want to offer a balanced viewpoint on all subjects regarding Cyprus.
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Postby DT. » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:31 am

Medman wrote:FIFA and UEFA just haven't got the balls to sort out this issue. They keep sidestepping it, just like the EU when it comes to the island. Politics and Sport are not supposed to mix according to their own doctrines. This issue will not be solved because the poitical issues regarding Cyprus are still there. You have to love this forum for the magnitude of ignorance and arrogance from the people on it. Yes even from me. Well done to the sane ones who are still not riddled with prejudice and hate and want to offer a balanced viewpoint on all subjects regarding Cyprus.


i.e talking a lot but saying nothing?
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Postby Medman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:39 am

If you mean me DT. I've left plenty of articles of this forum. Offer your views on the film Attila 74 (look in the Cyprus Problem section of this forum). As an APOEL fan well you've got your own problems!!!!!
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Postby utu » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:17 am

Kifeas wrote:
utu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
utu wrote:Sounds like the idea is a non-starter then. Pity. Sport would be an ideal ground-breaker, like the 'ping-pong' diplomacy of USA and China...


All sports comes with rules utu, and one needs to abide by them if they want to be part of it, and the rules of the FIFA and UEFA are, that in order for any matches to be staged in the north, the CTFA must sign a document whereby they recognise the CFA and agree to become members, since all the territory is only recognised as Cyprus by the UN and the EU, and the CFA as the only official body. These are the rules, and everyone involved knows the rules. The only question that remains to be answered is, are they prepared to play by the rules, that's all.!


That may be, but there would have to be concessions from both sides. Turkish Cypriots will not stand for seeing the ROC flag and hearing the Greek Anthem at games. The south may have to opt for the "China Taipei" model of sporting flag and neutalist anthem as their compromise.


Utu, my darling, since you seem to have an opinion as to how the TC's sports problems must be solved, can you also make some suggestion, if you have an opinion, as to how the problem of me and the other 200,000 GC refugee's, 35 years long human rights violation problems, should be solved? Do you have anything to propose on that, or you only know about how the TC’s sporting problems can be solved? Does the “Taiwan formula” have anything too, for the 200 K GC refugees that have been striped off their properties, homes, villages, culture and history, for 35 long years now?


Kifeas, we were talking about sports, and not the main elements of the Cyprus Problem, but if you're asking what I feel needs to be done, here it is in several steps. One, I agree that all property displaced have to be restored. That goes to 1963, not just 1974. Two, the Anatolian settlers forced onto the north by the Turkish Government will need to be repatriated back to Turkey, Three, the Turkish military presence must be severely scaled back- if not completely eliminated. Four, the Turkish Cypriot disapora must be encouraged to return to the island, and Five, a new constitution must be negotiated.
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