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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:17 am

miltiades wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Miltiades will you fight for our rights when GCs discriminate against my children purely for being TC in a united GC run Cyprus? or will you just turn the other cheek like they did during 1963 to 1974? Or will I be left alone fighting for my rights in the corridors of the ECHR for the next 10 years?

I will fight for the rights of all Cypriots , your children and everyone elses children are entitled to their rights equally . No Cypriot child has more rights than another Cypriot child.
Your children VP are just as adorable and just as precious as my grandchildren are to me.

Those that exercise discriminatory practices should be challenged by the law of the land guided and watched over by Mother Europe .
Turkish Cypriot men women and children are an integral part of this island with equal rights as the Greek Cypriots and visa verse.


So when my child is pushed to the back of the queue for being a TC by a GC official will you be there to tell to not discrminate? will you be at every interview when my child is not even in the running for being a TC? how will you ensure these acts which we saw the GCs were maters of will not be repeated in a united Cyprus?

VP , the RoC is a truly democratic government that is recognised as such internationally , more so by the EU who has the authority to "intervene" issue directives and in some cases demand that procedures guaranteeing the citizens rights are in place. Extremists exist everywhere , you are aware that on this forum we have our share equally.
Unless we begin to take into account what matters most and that is the future of this island and that of its future generations of Cypriot people , remembering that over the next 20 or so years there will be much more than just G/Cs and T/Cs in sizable numbers , there are already English , Eastern Europeans and many more , making Cyprus a cosmopolitan island
where all citizens will be equal under the law. There is room for all Cypriots to live and be free from discrimination and fear , what there isn't room for is foreign troops occupying a large chunk of our island and of land that is now a part of Europe.


Thats where we feel the GCs will not act fair when it comes to TCs, the trickery and tactics used by the GCs in the past are still fresh in many TCs minds thats why there needs to plenty of safeguards and heavy penalities for those who try to brush the TCs to one side once again. If the penalty is in place before the acts of discrimination is carried then this may deter those who will always push my child to the back of the queue just for the reason they are TC, so I do not want to give my a child a future where they are deemed as second class citizens by the numerical majority.

By this logic ALL minorities throughout the world ought to demand their own state , therefore in the UK with some 300 different minorities all should have their own states !!! VP you are talking rubbish mate. Minorities exist on every single nation on earth. You can not dismiss the numerical majority or demand that they reduce in numbers. Enough of these stupid nonsense , if you want to be amongst a numerical Turkish superiority no one is stopping you, but if you are thinking that the land of my ancestors is going to remain under foreign occupation so that the likes of you are in the majority then you have another thing coming !
Cyprus , all of it , belongs to the Cypriots ,the T/Cs G/Cs Maronites , Armenians , English too , dont like the fact that the G/Cs are the majority , tough bloody luck !! As for those that do not consider the island of Cyprus as their motherland they too have an easy option , go join your deranged motherlands !!


We are not just any other minority and we have rights to this island just as you do. We tried the lets all live together method it didnt work but the 2 state solution did, for 34 years there has been a peaceful exsistence on both sides of the divide. I want the choice to live amongst TCs as peoposed by the BBF solution, where everyone has the freedom to choose where they wish to live and under which administration, so miltiades ı am not talking nonesense I am just stating facts which you do not want to accept as it does not fit in with your we are all Cypriots get to the back of the queue theory.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:21 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

Did you know that we are Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks in origin ??


Does that mean that an Indian born and raised in the UK is English.
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Postby Agios Ionas » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Does that mean that an Indian born and raised in the UK is English.


Funny that you should bring this up as an example. I have an old mate who is born in the UK but of Indian ancestry. He says he's English himself... of Indian ancestry! He's visited India several times to meet relatives and find out about his roots, but his home is in the UK. Although part of his heart may be in India (because of relatives rather than culture/religion) he once told me the country he would die for (if he had no other choice) would be the UK. And this guy is a second generation 'immigrant' from India. Born and raised (he's +40) in the UK but parents coming from India.

TC's with roots from Turkey going back as far as 1571 surely should consider themselves Cypriots rather than Turks. It's not like you came to Cyprus from Turkey a few years ago, now is it VP?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:52 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Does that mean that an Indian born and raised in the UK is English.


Funny that you should bring this up as an example. I have an old mate who is born in the UK but of Indian ancestry. He says he's English himself... of Indian ancestry! He's visited India several times to meet relatives and find out about his roots, but his home is in the UK. Although part of his heart may be in India (because of relatives rather than culture/religion) he once told me the country he would die for (if he had no other choice) would be the UK. And this guy is a second generation 'immigrant' from India. Born and raised (he's +40) in the UK but parents coming from India.

TC's with roots from Turkey going back as far as 1571 surely should consider themselves Cypriots rather than Turks. It's not like you came to Cyprus from Turkey a few years ago, now is it VP?


No my ancestors came over 400 years ago but unlike some I do not deny my roots are from Turkey, the Indian example you gave supports what I am saying although this man is second generation "Brit" his roots are still from India he still feels a bond with his origins, TCs are no different although we to have and are ready to die again for our country the TRNC we still have very strong bonds with our origins which are undeniablly Turkish, so when GCs claim the Turks will assimilate you its comical because we are already Turkish in origin and this is preferred to running the risk of being assimilated by GCs.
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Postby DT. » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:23 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

Did you know that we are Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks in origin ??


Does that mean that an Indian born and raised in the UK is English.


You dare tell a mate of mine that he's Indian and not English especially while he's watching the 3 lions you'll probably get a black eye.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:44 pm

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

Did you know that we are Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks in origin ??


Did you know that you haven't got a clue what you really are Miltiades?
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Postby miltiades » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:52 pm

Agios Ionas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Does that mean that an Indian born and raised in the UK is English.


Funny that you should bring this up as an example. I have an old mate who is born in the UK but of Indian ancestry. He says he's English himself... of Indian ancestry! He's visited India several times to meet relatives and find out about his roots, but his home is in the UK. Although part of his heart may be in India (because of relatives rather than culture/religion) he once told me the country he would die for (if he had no other choice) would be the UK. And this guy is a second generation 'immigrant' from India. Born and raised (he's +40) in the UK but parents coming from India.

TC's with roots from Turkey going back as far as 1571 surely should consider themselves Cypriots rather than Turks. It's not like you came to Cyprus from Turkey a few years ago, now is it VP?

Agree totally !!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:55 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

Did you know that we are Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks in origin ??


Did you know that you haven't got a clue what you really are Miltiades?

Oracle let me enlighten you my dear . I'm a KIPREOS OPOS ITAN O PATERAS MOU KE I PRO PAPPOUDES MOU , KIPREI OXI KALAMARADES . Cabitchi !!
I have nothing against the Greeks but I do not consider my self any thing other than a Greek Cypriot , massive difference my dear .
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Postby Oracle » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:14 pm

miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

Did you know that we are Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks in origin ??


Did you know that you haven't got a clue what you really are Miltiades?

Oracle let me enlighten you my dear . I'm a KIPREOS OPOS ITAN O PATERAS MOU KE I PRO PAPPOUDES MOU , KIPREI OXI KALAMARADES . Cabitchi !!
I have nothing against the Greeks but I do not consider my self any thing other than a Greek Cypriot , massive difference my dear .


Oh but you were talking about origins; and the origins of the Greek speaking people of Cyprus, are from those mainland Greeks of a few thousand years ago. Quite a historically recent event, and much recorded and evidenced. Or do you too, like the Turks, wish to erode that line?
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