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[Viewpoint]

Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

[eracles]

No, if you're turkish cypriot, you're probably from the same melting pot as the rest of us, i'm sure you shudder at the thought...

[Viewpoint]

No, if you're turkish cypriot, you're probably from the same melting pot as the rest of us, i'm sure you shudder at the thought...

Thats where the Turkish comes from in Turkish Cypriot.

[eracles]

the turkish comes from an invasion in the 1570

[Viewpoint]

the turkish comes from an invasion in the 1570

Turkish all the same not Greek, why do you have a problem with us feeling proud about our Turkish roots?

[eracles]

the turkish comes from an invasion in the 1570

Turkish all the same not Greek, why do you have a problem with us feeling proud about our Turkish roots?

no problem at all, i think it enriches the island, you seemed to be implying that you view TCs and Turks the same, my mistake, but for the record I don't see that as the case with GCs and Greeks

[Viewpoint]

the turkish comes from an invasion in the 1570

Turkish all the same not Greek, why do you have a problem with us feeling proud about our Turkish roots?

no problem at all, i think it enriches the island, you seemed to be implying that you view TCs and Turks the same, my mistake, but for the record I don't see that as the case with GCs and Greeks

Its a mtter of how you want to view things and everyone should be free to make their own choice, not forced one way or the other.

[Oracle]

the turkish comes from an invasion in the 1570

Turkish all the same not Greek, why do you have a problem with us feeling proud about our Turkish roots?

When we say we are Greek, it is because we go back thousands of years.

If you say you are Turkish, you only go back ~ 90 years. If you say you are Ottomans you still only go back a few hundred years.

If you want to match us for longevity and go back several centuries (let alone millennia) you have to say you are Mongolian.

State the historical facts

[miltiades]

Miltiades will you fight for our rights when GCs discriminate against my children purely for being TC in a united GC run Cyprus? or will you just turn the other cheek like they did during 1963 to 1974? Or will I be left alone fighting for my rights in the corridors of the ECHR for the next 10 years?

I will fight for the rights of all Cypriots , your children and everyone elses children are entitled to their rights equally . No Cypriot child has more rights than another Cypriot child.
Your children VP are just as adorable and just as precious as my grandchildren are to me.

Those that exercise discriminatory practices should be challenged by the law of the land guided and watched over by Mother Europe .
Turkish Cypriot men women and children are an integral part of this island with equal rights as the Greek Cypriots and visa verse.

So when my child is pushed to the back of the queue for being a TC by a GC official will you be there to tell to not discrminate? will you be at every interview when my child is not even in the running for being a TC? how will you ensure these acts which we saw the GCs were maters of will not be repeated in a united Cyprus?

VP , the RoC is a truly democratic government that is recognised as such internationally , more so by the EU who has the authority to "intervene" issue directives and in some cases demand that procedures guaranteeing the citizens rights are in place. Extremists exist everywhere , you are aware that on this forum we have our share equally.
Unless we begin to take into account what matters most and that is the future of this island and that of its future generations of Cypriot people , remembering that over the next 20 or so years there will be much more than just G/Cs and T/Cs in sizable numbers , there are already English , Eastern Europeans and many more , making Cyprus a cosmopolitan island
where all citizens will be equal under the law. There is room for all Cypriots to live and be free from discrimination and fear , what there isn't room for is foreign troops occupying a large chunk of our island and of land that is now a part of Europe.

Thats where we feel the GCs will not act fair when it comes to TCs, the trickery and tactics used by the GCs in the past are still fresh in many TCs minds thats why there needs to plenty of safeguards and heavy penalities for those who try to brush the TCs to one side once again. If the penalty is in place before the acts of discrimination is carried then this may deter those who will always push my child to the back of the queue just for the reason they are TC, so I do not want to give my a child a future where they are deemed as second class citizens by the numerical majority.

By this logic ALL minorities throughout the world ought to demand their own state , therefore in the UK with some 300 different minorities all should have their own states !!! VP you are talking rubbish mate. Minorities exist on every single nation on earth. You can not dismiss the numerical majority or demand that they reduce in numbers. Enough of these stupid nonsense , if you want to be amongst a numerical Turkish superiority no one is stopping you, but if you are thinking that the land of my ancestors is going to remain under foreign occupation so that the likes of you are in the majority then you have another thing coming !
Cyprus , all of it , belongs to the Cypriots ,the T/Cs G/Cs Maronites , Armenians , English too , dont like the fact that the G/Cs are the majority , tough bloody luck !! As for those that do not consider the island of Cyprus as their motherland they too have an easy option , go join your deranged motherlands !!

[miltiades]

Did you know that we are Turkish and not Greek in origin?

Did you know that we are Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks in origin ??