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[Nikitas]

Sotos,

if there is a civil war in the north, the scenario will be a nightmare for us. The TCs will flee south to escape the attention of their "saviors" and in the end we will have all Cypriots in the south, GC and TC, and all settlers and army in the north. It will be a shambles, not a solution.

[Sotos]

Sotos,

if there is a civil war in the north, the scenario will be a nightmare for us. The TCs will flee south to escape the attention of their "saviors" and in the end we will have all Cypriots in the south, GC and TC, and all settlers and army in the north. It will be a shambles, not a solution.

I am not just saying in the north. I am saying in Turkey in general. TCs should stay there choose a side and fight. They are not our side and we will not give them refuge. If they wanted to be on our side they should have thought of it earlier.

[miltiades]

I doubt very much that any T/C would like to be on what you brazenly refer to as ""our side "" .
Which side is that , because it ain't my side mate not with you around. You are the opposite to BigAl , one G/C with revolting views and one T/C with equally revolting views. It is precisely for this reason that we have the current situation.
You refer to T/Cs as cockroaches , are you including ALL T/Cs or just some !

[Nikitas]

"They should have" reminds me of the vindictive attitude of people who keep repeating "if you had not carried out the coup the invasion would not have happened....." .

Honestly, in the event of a civil war in the north, do you see us posting police officers at the checkpoints asking people fleeing for their lives if they are partitionists or unionists?

[zan]

The English drew a green line across Cyprus and the UN, more extensively, supported it with the Annan Plan but still the Greeks know better

Self determination of the TCs seems to be opposed only by the Greeks so I would say that the problem was solved in 1974. If we are to believe what we read then your new leader is saying the same thing so perhaps it is time for right thinking GCs to rise against the EOKA thugs like Tpap and come to their senses. Sotos can always get care in the community.

[Piratis]

The English drew a green line across Cyprus and the UN, more extensively, supported it with the Annan Plan but still the Greeks know better

Self determination of the TCs seems to be opposed only by the Greeks so I would say that the problem was solved in 1974. If we are to believe what we read then your new leader is saying the same thing so perhaps it is time for right thinking GCs to rise against the EOKA thugs like Tpap and come to their senses. Sotos can always get care in the community.

Zan, what the UN made are resolutions that call for the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, declare your secessionist actions as illegal, and call for the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Cyprus. This are the resolutions that are in effect today.

The Annan plan is now null and void. It was nothing more than a proposal. I can propose to you to go an suicide, but I can not kill you or force you to do it. If you don't want to, nobody can force you to.

The same with Annan plan. If we wanted to we could brake our own island in two or fifteen parts. It is our island we do whatever we want with it. But we clearly declared we don't want to do such thing, so that was the end with that stupid proposal.

Also regarding the "TC self-determination", can you please tell me how our cities and villages fall under your "self-determination" and not under our self-determination? Even if you had a separate self-determination, you still can not determine the fate of what is not yours to begin with (except if you do so illegally and criminally, which just makes you a criminal and still doesn't give you any right over what you stole).

[zan]

The English drew a green line across Cyprus and the UN, more extensively, supported it with the Annan Plan but still the Greeks know better

Self determination of the TCs seems to be opposed only by the Greeks so I would say that the problem was solved in 1974. If we are to believe what we read then your new leader is saying the same thing so perhaps it is time for right thinking GCs to rise against the EOKA thugs like Tpap and come to their senses. Sotos can always get care in the community.

Zan, what the UN made are resolutions that call for the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, declare your secessionist actions as illegal, and call for the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Cyprus. This are the resolutions that are in effect today.

The Annan plan is now null and void. It was nothing more than a proposal. I can propose to you to go an suicide, but I can not kill you or force you to do it. If you don't want to, nobody can force you to.

The same with Annan plan. If we wanted to we could brake our own island in two or fifteen parts. It is our island we do whatever we want with it. But we clearly declared we don't want to do such thing, so that was the end with that stupid proposal.

Also regarding the "TC self-determination", can you please tell me how our cities and villages fall under your "self-determination" and not under our self-determination? Even if you had a separate self-determination, you still can not determine the fate of what is not yours to begin with (except if you do so illegally and criminally, which just makes you a criminal and still doesn't give you any right over what you stole).

Whilst the UN have to pass resolutions in accordance with the decision they wrongly made in 1964 because Makarios decided to ignore the resolutions they passed against him and the masacre TCs they attempted to correct their failure with the Annan Plan. Knowing full well that the original wrong decision leaves you to reject the plan they instilled trust in your leader Tpap to do the right thing. He did not and continued in his double crossing ways and tried to usurp the island by trickery. The Annan Plan reflected the present situation and attempted to put right what was wrong. Trying to take what wasn't YOURS is what resulted in our administering part of that land. You still do not want to give us back what you took but expect the return of what we took and you call that fair and democratic.

[Piratis]

The English drew a green line across Cyprus and the UN, more extensively, supported it with the Annan Plan but still the Greeks know better

Self determination of the TCs seems to be opposed only by the Greeks so I would say that the problem was solved in 1974. If we are to believe what we read then your new leader is saying the same thing so perhaps it is time for right thinking GCs to rise against the EOKA thugs like Tpap and come to their senses. Sotos can always get care in the community.

Zan, what the UN made are resolutions that call for the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, declare your secessionist actions as illegal, and call for the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Cyprus. This are the resolutions that are in effect today.

The Annan plan is now null and void. It was nothing more than a proposal. I can propose to you to go an suicide, but I can not kill you or force you to do it. If you don't want to, nobody can force you to.

The same with Annan plan. If we wanted to we could brake our own island in two or fifteen parts. It is our island we do whatever we want with it. But we clearly declared we don't want to do such thing, so that was the end with that stupid proposal.

Also regarding the "TC self-determination", can you please tell me how our cities and villages fall under your "self-determination" and not under our self-determination? Even if you had a separate self-determination, you still can not determine the fate of what is not yours to begin with (except if you do so illegally and criminally, which just makes you a criminal and still doesn't give you any right over what you stole).

Whilst the UN have to pass resolutions in accordance with the decision they wrongly made in 1964 because Makarios decided to ignore the resolutions they passed against him and the masacre TCs they attempted to correct their failure with the Annan Plan. Knowing full well that the original wrong decision leaves you to reject the plan they instilled trust in your leader Tpap to do the right thing. He did not and continued in his double crossing ways and tried to usurp the island by trickery. The Annan Plan reflected the present situation and attempted to put right what was wrong. Trying to take what wasn't YOURS is what resulted in our administering part of that land. You still do not want to give us back what you took but expect the return of what we took and you call that fair and democratic.

Zan, when will you realize that with lies you can not have an argument with me? Keep the lies for the ones who have no clue about Cyprus history because they are the only ones you can convince.

In the inter-communal conflict which you started in 1958, both sides had about about an equal number of casualties. There was no such thing as "massacre of TC" unless you also talk about a "massacre of GCs".

So you are lying that the UN passed resolutions against Makarios about any "TC massacres". If there is such resolution then show it to me.

Here are all UN resolutions about Cyprus:
http://www.un.int/cyprus/resolut.htm

Trying to cover up your crimes and illegalities with a bunch of lies is very lame Zan.

Cypriots have suffered for centuries and continue to suffer from the aggressiveness of the Turks against our island. You trying to distort history to present the invadors and the oppressors as being the victims is a joke.

The only thing the Cypriot ever fought for was to rid themselves of foreign rule, and rule their own island in a democratic (one person one vote) way as it happens in all civilized democracies in the world.

[cypezokyli]

do not worry boys.....

it will be solved by next february (best case), or by next june (worse case).

all those gcs and tcs against the coming solution, you have till then to fight with each other.

[zan]

The English drew a green line across Cyprus and the UN, more extensively, supported it with the Annan Plan but still the Greeks know better

Self determination of the TCs seems to be opposed only by the Greeks so I would say that the problem was solved in 1974. If we are to believe what we read then your new leader is saying the same thing so perhaps it is time for right thinking GCs to rise against the EOKA thugs like Tpap and come to their senses. Sotos can always get care in the community.

Zan, what the UN made are resolutions that call for the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, declare your secessionist actions as illegal, and call for the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Cyprus. This are the resolutions that are in effect today.

The Annan plan is now null and void. It was nothing more than a proposal. I can propose to you to go an suicide, but I can not kill you or force you to do it. If you don't want to, nobody can force you to.

The same with Annan plan. If we wanted to we could brake our own island in two or fifteen parts. It is our island we do whatever we want with it. But we clearly declared we don't want to do such thing, so that was the end with that stupid proposal.

Also regarding the "TC self-determination", can you please tell me how our cities and villages fall under your "self-determination" and not under our self-determination? Even if you had a separate self-determination, you still can not determine the fate of what is not yours to begin with (except if you do so illegally and criminally, which just makes you a criminal and still doesn't give you any right over what you stole).

Whilst the UN have to pass resolutions in accordance with the decision they wrongly made in 1964 because Makarios decided to ignore the resolutions they passed against him and the masacre TCs they attempted to correct their failure with the Annan Plan. Knowing full well that the original wrong decision leaves you to reject the plan they instilled trust in your leader Tpap to do the right thing. He did not and continued in his double crossing ways and tried to usurp the island by trickery. The Annan Plan reflected the present situation and attempted to put right what was wrong. Trying to take what wasn't YOURS is what resulted in our administering part of that land. You still do not want to give us back what you took but expect the return of what we took and you call that fair and democratic.

Zan, when will you realize that with lies you can not have an argument with me? Keep the lies for the ones who have no clue about Cyprus history because they are the only ones you can convince.

In the inter-communal conflict which you started in 1958, both sides had about about an equal number of casualties. There was no such thing as "massacre of TC" unless you also talk about a "massacre of GCs".

So you are lying that the UN passed resolutions against Makarios about any "TC massacres". If there is such resolution then show it to me.

Here are all UN resolutions about Cyprus:
http://www.un.int/cyprus/resolut.htm

Trying to cover up your crimes and illegalities with a bunch of lies is very lame Zan.

Cypriots have suffered for centuries and continue to suffer from the aggressiveness of the Turks against our island. You trying to distort history to present the invadors and the oppressors as being the victims is a joke.

The only thing the Cypriot ever fought for was to rid themselves of foreign rule, and rule their own island in a democratic (one person one vote) way as it happens in all civilized democracies in the world.

You will only get what you deserve re Piratis and lies deserve lies so here you are. When you stop talking Bol***ks then I will.