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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:16 am

right after turkey gives the kurds 50% power in turkey as EQUAL parterns... or is that unacceptable? you peole are evena minrity in your own "state"

you turks just want two states... hell lets make a russian republic of eastern cyprus they to are a minority let them in on the action!! hell why stop there let the indians and every other minority in cy the same rights a romanian republic of south west cyprus.. how many ways can we split cy ?

you turks do nothing but take and demand more its not us who wont comppromise ALL WE HAVE DONE IS COMPROMISE BUT YOU TURKS JUST TAKE AND WONT MOVE AN INCH!!! its all north /turkeys fault...
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:46 am

paliometoxo wrote:right after turkey gives the kurds 50% power in turkey as EQUAL parterns... or is that unacceptable? you peole are evena minrity in your own "state"

you turks just want two states... hell lets make a russian republic of eastern cyprus they to are a minority let them in on the action!! hell why stop there let the indians and every other minority in cy the same rights a romanian republic of south west cyprus.. how many ways can we split cy ?

you turks do nothing but take and demand more its not us who wont comppromise ALL WE HAVE DONE IS COMPROMISE BUT YOU TURKS JUST TAKE AND WONT MOVE AN INCH!!! its all north /turkeys fault...


Im neither a Kurd or a Turk,Im a Turkish Cypriot with rights that you are trying to take away so until you see sence and agree to a BBF with political equality then you can kiss the north goodbye forever.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:24 am

Turks in north Turks in turkey same thing.Tcs would be worse off how could the population live in less then 30% of the island which would be the case if there was partition all of u squashed in the north Not coming to south for work. We give tcs way more rights then tcs give to gcs. The more goodwill gcs show it does not help.
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Postby roseandchan » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:34 am

in the uk parliment we have all races of people. they represent all ethnic groups living in the uk. this is what happens in a democracy! like it or not itis the only fair way for everyones voice to be heard.
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Postby conmarios » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:29 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:well we'll just have to go along till the international community opens its eyes and sees Turkey for the fascist state that it is.


Or the GCs for not really wanting to compromise with TCs or sharing the island as 2 equal partners.


How do you see this?
When an invation creates two equal parteners. :evil: :evil:
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Postby humanist » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:58 am

My posisiton has not changed from two years ago VP that is a united Cyprus for all cypriots with equal rights. The rest is fascist Turkish talk. That exposes you for who you are.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:36 am

humanist wrote:My posisiton has not changed from two years ago VP that is a united Cyprus for all cypriots with equal rights. The rest is fascist Turkish talk. That exposes you for who you are.


You have admited many times and we have all read that you are disappointed in TCs and that an agree partition woul be better for everyone.
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Postby zan » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:58 am

humanist wrote:My posisiton has not changed from two years ago VP that is a united Cyprus for all cypriots with equal rights. The rest is fascist Turkish talk. That exposes you for who you are.


Only if you dismiss all that you have done and take it for granted that you own the island and we have no rights in Cyprus....Your Mr Tpap was known as the obstacle to a solution throughout Europe and you get rid of him, or ask us to believe anyway, and after five minutes we are the bad guys yet again.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby humanist » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:14 am

Zan firstly I believe you can do better than the sentence you wrote above.

Secondly, I have never advocated and I do not accept that all that is done is forgote. I have advocated on thi forum for an apology to TC's for the actions of some[u]GC's in the 60"s. I have advocated on this same forum for legal action against the GC's involved in the Tochni massacre, I have advocated for equal right of TC's in Cyprus (that means equal no less no more) and I continue to advocate that TC's have played a major part of the development and evolution of the Cypriot culture and as such deserve equal standing in the Cypriot society (no more no less than any other Cypriot).

Papadopoulos was ousted by the citizens and voters of the RoC because I know that some TC's voted in the elections.

You are not the bad guys what I am simply saying is that (a) Talat is not genuine about unification where he will play a role as vice president in the development and evolution of a United states of Cyprus or something like that. He has lacked foresight in working towards perhaps representing all of Cypriot people not just 18% and, (b) He perhaps is not able to make that pledge because he is not making the decisions because Turkey is making the decisions.

I have to admit I loose my cool on ocassion and go for the eye for an eye responses, and I have done it many times, and probably will do it again. However, my position stands as above. I would like to see your community take an active and participative role in the Cypriot Society and benefit from EU resources (whatever they may be), at one time in our history we have got to stop looking at the past and concentrate on the future if we want to make a better Cyprus for our children. Otherwise we are staying back there and there is nothing we can do to change those events. All the blame to be thrown around, back and forth it will not change the massacre of 63 and it will not change the events of 74. They are done they are history, we need to look to the future and there is an opportunity to make it happen.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:50 pm

We TCs are looking for an agreement that will not leave us exposed to GC will under the camflouge of "democracy in numbers", there has to be a system where can stop anything that will effect TCs or the north state more negatively, why do the GCs fear these safeguards if they have no intention of exploiting them. If they are so confident and act inline with rules and regulations these safeguards will become redundent in a very period of time. Your approach reveals that you have hidden agendas to push us into oblivion and take control fo the whole island under the guise of democracy once again resurecting your ideology of turning the island into a GC state run by GCs.
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