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[zan]

VP ans Zan,

Refer to the decisions of the Spanish authorities to reverse coastal development inorder to INCREASE the value of their investment and then please read carefully my post which stresses how value is increased when SOME parts of the landscape are left in their natural state.

Now let us think, if Ayia Napa in the south had five super luxury hotels and the surrounding area was left as it was in the 50s, would the total revenue brough in by tourism be more or less than now? It would be more, I say, but there should be a way to pay the owners of the surrounding land for not converting it to plots and building it. It is a simple concept but very hard to apply fairly. So people "develop" the land and in the long run lose money.

The above applies to both sides of Cyprus, which inspite of what some people think, is not an overly beautiful island. The Cypriot countryside is actually very ordinary and it PAYS us all to keep the few impressive parts intact. The sand dunes of Karpasia are one such place, Akamas is another. I would have added the Pendadaktylos range but that was buggered up a long time ago.

We have not had the luxury of picking and choosing on how to develop in anything we do Nikitas. You seem to forget the siege we are under and how we need to make a living and support some sort of infrastructure that you have had a free hand in. please remember to put all the facts into your equation when making assumptions about anything that happens in the TRNC. You will not fool yourself into a false sense of security if you do. In a perfect world then I would agree with you whole heartedly but you have not allowed us a perfect world.

[Nikitas]

Well, SOME people manage obviously, and they have built a joke of a development stretching from Kyrenia to Karavas, in fact the building is to dense there as to blur the separation of villages. They had no problem with infrastructure nor with finding clients to buy the abominations they built.

What we are talking about, as Cypriots, is to spare the same fate from hitting Karpasia and other areas of the island. But we know that those who have "plugged into the cash flow" are in a hurry to sell to anyone and take off while the money is deposited in Swiss bank accounts. At least in the south the money stays in the country.

[zan]

Well, SOME people manage obviously, and they have built a joke of a development stretching from Kyrenia to Karavas, in fact the building is to dense there as to blur the separation of villages. They had no problem with infrastructure nor with finding clients to buy the abominations they built.

What we are talking about, as Cypriots, is to spare the same fate from hitting Karpasia and other areas of the island. But we know that those who have "plugged into the cash flow" are in a hurry to sell to anyone and take off while the money is deposited in Swiss bank accounts. At least in the south the money stays in the country.

Stıll comparıng apples and paırs......Lıft the embargoes and allow my government to work properly or shut up about what we can and cannot do.

I actually found my perfect home ın the Kantara area but way over my prıce bracket. TC owned land wıth a perfect buıldıng standard. Those that have not been so careful are goıng bankrupt. At least natural selectıon worked ıts magıc ın some places.

[conmarios]

I think we may under estimate the serioussness of our CF chatting to the process for unification. Talat and Christofias have come a long way and I think with a bit more support and understanding they will reach a solution beneficial to Cypriots.

The sooner they open the crossing at Limnitis (near Papho right?) the sooner we will expereince a united Cyprus as those communites will be the first to synergise.

I am excited.

there was great artice in the tehran times if you are interested in a fair article.

How wrong you all are, Turkey has just planted the seeds of failure. read Hails (i mean shit stirrers) post in news from the north.

Toilet won't entertain (as he has been directed by his puppet masters) any solution where turkey is to give up guarantor rights.

Well, enough said, back to square one.

pantheman I totally agree with you.
I say lets cat the middle man he is a puppet anyway and talk only with Turkey that’s were all the decisions are made.

[Cem]

RW had said,

Coffee and sea food!? blerh!

Starters: Mezes of varios kind, particularly hoummous, white cheese, cappari, mediterranean salad, coriander.
Fried chips, yogurt, squid treated with garlic, king prawns, crab stick,pilav (rice).
main: Sea brass cooked in garlic, accompanied with a chilled white wine.

Then, finally to complement the menu with a digestive at the end:
Turkish coffee (orta).

What is wrong with that mate ? Did I said coffee and sea food at the same time?

My only concern is that there should be an area predominantly TC in the north whose demographic structure is not to be upset by the incoming GCs. On the other hand, demographic restrictions may not apply to Karpasia and Varosha..
The Turkish army may pull out in stages as stipulated in Kofi Kikapu plan and by the end of 10th year, the pullout would be complete and EU "acquis communautaire" applies in full scale to the north.

This exclusive TC majority area...is this for say ten years or forever ?

I understand what you mean.
Well, the there must be a T/C majority area by special derogation of the EU "acquis communtaire" which is pre-agreed by both GC and TC, since under EU laws and withouth derogatory rights this "majority" can not be put into effect.
Naturally, the boundaries of such area will be much smaller than actual of course.
On the other hand, maybe at the end of some 20 years or so, this derogation can be lifted ,if so will the votes of exclusively TCs.

[Nikitas]

"found my perfect home ın the Kantara area " which would be far from perfect of everyone could build around you and turn the place from country to city. Zoning laws are used by civilised countries everywhere.

[Viewpoint]

Well, SOME people manage obviously, and they have built a joke of a development stretching from Kyrenia to Karavas, in fact the building is to dense there as to blur the separation of villages. They had no problem with infrastructure nor with finding clients to buy the abominations they built.

What we are talking about, as Cypriots, is to spare the same fate from hitting Karpasia and other areas of the island. But we know that those who have "plugged into the cash flow" are in a hurry to sell to anyone and take off while the money is deposited in Swiss bank accounts. At least in the south the money stays in the country.

Why did you not put into practice what you preach to us in the south?

[humanist]

St?ll compar?ng apples and pa?rs......L?ft the embargoes and allow my government to work properly or shut up about what we can and cannot do.

allow us the freedom of return to our homeland and may be you will not be faced with the embargoes ..... have a great holiday Zan.

[boomerang]

this is ain't no leaders meeting...it should read leader and glorified messenger boy...

[humanist]

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) booms your great