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[pantheman]

Kiks,

I take my hat off to you mate, well said.

Bravo.

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Kikapu

Without Turkeys help, which as an occupying power has an obligation to support you, you will be in worse situation than Turks living in Turkey. Also, if GC stolen properties were not traded, sanctioned by your leaders in aiding and abetting it, plus monies from other illegal activities, you will be shit out of luck and you know it too damn well. When many of the TC's and almost all of the settlers are living rent free in GC's properties which is nothing more than a welfare state, and on top of which, many TC's go to the south for their daily bread money as well as hospitalization plus other benefits, therefore you can hardly compare it to other countries economies when their citizens who need to pay for most basic things in life and keep the economy going at the same time with their own industries.

Tell this to the GCs who hang out the begging bowl to 2 million tourists or the gC state who take the benefits from the money laundering activities called offshore banking in the GC south. Every countries economy is fuelled in many ways ours is no different under the circumstancies we have certain avenues available and of course we will exploit them to the full, until alternatives are made available when the inhumane embargoes are relaxed or lifted.

What I want for the TC's is what I want for all Cypriots, which is to live in a Democratic Country with all the political and human rights preserved and economically moving forward. The fact that the TC's come back to the north every night, is no indication that they would not rather live in the south. The question is, are they willing to take the risk for themselves or their families they leave in the north to be harassed and intimidated by your THUGS by declaring them TRAITORS. You are a prime example of calling others TRAITORS if it does not favour in supporting the illegal "state" in the north, and don't tell me people will not be subjected to be terrorized. The days of the TMT will return to control the TC's in the north from "jumping ship", even without a "life jacket".!!

Thousands of TCs travel south everyday and no one is labelled anything this is a figment of your vivid imagination, its the GCs who are ostriscised forbuying water in the north or labelled traitor for applying to the property commission for compensation. You demand we take of our life jackets knowing the waters are deep and rough leaving us to the mercy of GC winds and waves that will take us under. We demand no just a life jacket we are much wiser and demand more safeguards to ensure that 800.000 GCs will not be given the opportunity to drown us out of our rights to share this country as equal communities.

As for your choice between living in a Democratic Cyprus or becoming part of Turkey, is a easy one. All TC's who wish to be part of Turkey, can ask to immigrate to Turkey and the problem will be solved, that's assuming that the Turks will take the TC's in the first place. My guess is, you will be told to take a hike unless part of Cyprus comes with it. They have enough people in Turkey, and they don't need more mouths to feed. But if they say YES, then you will have Turkey's Guarantorship from now until eternity in Turkey, or at least as long as Turkey stays intact. You do not own any part of Cyprus to take it with you to give it to Turkey. It is about time you have learned this very simple problem that you keep threatening everyone with. Just like Iceman very bravely has been telling Zan in many ways the last day or so, in which I would characterize it, that the TC's and the settlers are very much like
OIL & WATER, in which the settlers are the OIL since they are the majority and are all on top of you, and getting OILIER by the minute.!!

We will not be going anywhere the TRNC recognized or not is our country or safe haven call it what you will but its an entity that looks like it will be around for a long time to come based on the debates we have on this forum. I respect Icemans views because he gives them honestly and without running TCs into the ground at every opportunity unlike you who still has problem understanding your ethnic origins are Turkish the oil you want to deny. (Still believe you are Greek or GC)

[Kikapu]

Kikapu

Without Turkeys help, which as an occupying power has an obligation to support you, you will be in worse situation than Turks living in Turkey. Also, if GC stolen properties were not traded, sanctioned by your leaders in aiding and abetting it, plus monies from other illegal activities, you will be shit out of luck and you know it too damn well. When many of the TC's and almost all of the settlers are living rent free in GC's properties which is nothing more than a welfare state, and on top of which, many TC's go to the south for their daily bread money as well as hospitalization plus other benefits, therefore you can hardly compare it to other countries economies when their citizens who need to pay for most basic things in life and keep the economy going at the same time with their own industries.

Tell this to the GCs who hang out the begging bowl to 2 million tourists or the gC state who take the benefits from the money laundering activities called offshore banking in the GC south. Every countries economy is fuelled in many ways ours is no different under the circumstancies we have certain avenues available and of course we will exploit them to the full, until alternatives are made available when the inhumane embargoes are relaxed or lifted.

What I want for the TC's is what I want for all Cypriots, which is to live in a Democratic Country with all the political and human rights preserved and economically moving forward. The fact that the TC's come back to the north every night, is no indication that they would not rather live in the south. The question is, are they willing to take the risk for themselves or their families they leave in the north to be harassed and intimidated by your THUGS by declaring them TRAITORS. You are a prime example of calling others TRAITORS if it does not favour in supporting the illegal "state" in the north, and don't tell me people will not be subjected to be terrorized. The days of the TMT will return to control the TC's in the north from "jumping ship", even without a "life jacket".!!

Thousands of TCs travel south everyday and no one is labelled anything this is a figment of your vivid imagination, its the GCs who are ostriscised forbuying water in the north or labelled traitor for applying to the property commission for compensation. You demand we take of our life jackets knowing the waters are deep and rough leaving us to the mercy of GC winds and waves that will take us under. We demand no just a life jacket we are much wiser and demand more safeguards to ensure that 800.000 GCs will not be given the opportunity to drown us out of our rights to share this country as equal communities.

As for your choice between living in a Democratic Cyprus or becoming part of Turkey, is a easy one. All TC's who wish to be part of Turkey, can ask to immigrate to Turkey and the problem will be solved, that's assuming that the Turks will take the TC's in the first place. My guess is, you will be told to take a hike unless part of Cyprus comes with it. They have enough people in Turkey, and they don't need more mouths to feed. But if they say YES, then you will have Turkey's Guarantorship from now until eternity in Turkey, or at least as long as Turkey stays intact. You do not own any part of Cyprus to take it with you to give it to Turkey. It is about time you have learned this very simple problem that you keep threatening everyone with. Just like Iceman very bravely has been telling Zan in many ways the last day or so, in which I would characterize it, that the TC's and the settlers are very much like
OIL & WATER, in which the settlers are the OIL since they are the majority and are all on top of you, and getting OILIER by the minute.!!

We will not be going anywhere the TRNC recognized or not is our country or safe haven call it what you will but its an entity that looks like it will be around for a long time to come based on the debates we have on this forum. I respect Icemans views because he gives them honestly and without running TCs into the ground at every opportunity unlike you who still has problem understanding your ethnic origins are Turkish the oil you want to deny. (Still believe you are Greek or GC)

(Still believe you are Greek or GC)

Why, just because Bananiot said so to you, being that you are both good friends or because you do not like a straight talker.???

TC's going to the south for work or shopping is not what you were talking about. My response was for you telling us, that the TC's still come to the north to sleep, is what you were talking about, as if they have another choice without being terrorized, if they did chose to live in the south.!

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Kikapu

Without Turkeys help, which as an occupying power has an obligation to support you, you will be in worse situation than Turks living in Turkey. Also, if GC stolen properties were not traded, sanctioned by your leaders in aiding and abetting it, plus monies from other illegal activities, you will be shit out of luck and you know it too damn well. When many of the TC's and almost all of the settlers are living rent free in GC's properties which is nothing more than a welfare state, and on top of which, many TC's go to the south for their daily bread money as well as hospitalization plus other benefits, therefore you can hardly compare it to other countries economies when their citizens who need to pay for most basic things in life and keep the economy going at the same time with their own industries.

Tell this to the GCs who hang out the begging bowl to 2 million tourists or the gC state who take the benefits from the money laundering activities called offshore banking in the GC south. Every countries economy is fuelled in many ways ours is no different under the circumstancies we have certain avenues available and of course we will exploit them to the full, until alternatives are made available when the inhumane embargoes are relaxed or lifted.

What I want for the TC's is what I want for all Cypriots, which is to live in a Democratic Country with all the political and human rights preserved and economically moving forward. The fact that the TC's come back to the north every night, is no indication that they would not rather live in the south. The question is, are they willing to take the risk for themselves or their families they leave in the north to be harassed and intimidated by your THUGS by declaring them TRAITORS. You are a prime example of calling others TRAITORS if it does not favour in supporting the illegal "state" in the north, and don't tell me people will not be subjected to be terrorized. The days of the TMT will return to control the TC's in the north from "jumping ship", even without a "life jacket".!!

Thousands of TCs travel south everyday and no one is labelled anything this is a figment of your vivid imagination, its the GCs who are ostriscised forbuying water in the north or labelled traitor for applying to the property commission for compensation. You demand we take of our life jackets knowing the waters are deep and rough leaving us to the mercy of GC winds and waves that will take us under. We demand no just a life jacket we are much wiser and demand more safeguards to ensure that 800.000 GCs will not be given the opportunity to drown us out of our rights to share this country as equal communities.

As for your choice between living in a Democratic Cyprus or becoming part of Turkey, is a easy one. All TC's who wish to be part of Turkey, can ask to immigrate to Turkey and the problem will be solved, that's assuming that the Turks will take the TC's in the first place. My guess is, you will be told to take a hike unless part of Cyprus comes with it. They have enough people in Turkey, and they don't need more mouths to feed. But if they say YES, then you will have Turkey's Guarantorship from now until eternity in Turkey, or at least as long as Turkey stays intact. You do not own any part of Cyprus to take it with you to give it to Turkey. It is about time you have learned this very simple problem that you keep threatening everyone with. Just like Iceman very bravely has been telling Zan in many ways the last day or so, in which I would characterize it, that the TC's and the settlers are very much like
OIL & WATER, in which the settlers are the OIL since they are the majority and are all on top of you, and getting OILIER by the minute.!!

We will not be going anywhere the TRNC recognized or not is our country or safe haven call it what you will but its an entity that looks like it will be around for a long time to come based on the debates we have on this forum. I respect Icemans views because he gives them honestly and without running TCs into the ground at every opportunity unlike you who still has problem understanding your ethnic origins are Turkish the oil you want to deny. (Still believe you are Greek or GC)

(Still believe you are Greek or GC)

Why, just because Bananiot said so to you, being that you are both good friends or because you do not like a straight talker.???

TC's going to the south for work or shopping is not what you were talking about. My response was for you telling us, that the TC's still come to the north to sleep, is what you were talking about, as if they have another choice without being terrorized, if they did chose to live in the south.!

Havent met any sorry dont see them running south, no one is stopping them because no one gives a shit. you cannot understand this becuase you have not been to the TRNC and have not seen TCs living in their own environment, why should we go south its has nothing we want, we do not want to live in a GC state run by GCs this you have to ttry and understand. Its the same as not wanting to live in a French state or Italian state, lovely places but would not want to reside there, why is this so hard to understand the GC south is like a foreign place we can visit but we always want to come home to the TRNC.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu

Without Turkeys help, which as an occupying power has an obligation to support you, you will be in worse situation than Turks living in Turkey. Also, if GC stolen properties were not traded, sanctioned by your leaders in aiding and abetting it, plus monies from other illegal activities, you will be shit out of luck and you know it too damn well. When many of the TC's and almost all of the settlers are living rent free in GC's properties which is nothing more than a welfare state, and on top of which, many TC's go to the south for their daily bread money as well as hospitalization plus other benefits, therefore you can hardly compare it to other countries economies when their citizens who need to pay for most basic things in life and keep the economy going at the same time with their own industries.

Tell this to the GCs who hang out the begging bowl to 2 million tourists or the gC state who take the benefits from the money laundering activities called offshore banking in the GC south. Every countries economy is fuelled in many ways ours is no different under the circumstancies we have certain avenues available and of course we will exploit them to the full, until alternatives are made available when the inhumane embargoes are relaxed or lifted.

What I want for the TC's is what I want for all Cypriots, which is to live in a Democratic Country with all the political and human rights preserved and economically moving forward. The fact that the TC's come back to the north every night, is no indication that they would not rather live in the south. The question is, are they willing to take the risk for themselves or their families they leave in the north to be harassed and intimidated by your THUGS by declaring them TRAITORS. You are a prime example of calling others TRAITORS if it does not favour in supporting the illegal "state" in the north, and don't tell me people will not be subjected to be terrorized. The days of the TMT will return to control the TC's in the north from "jumping ship", even without a "life jacket".!!

Thousands of TCs travel south everyday and no one is labelled anything this is a figment of your vivid imagination, its the GCs who are ostriscised forbuying water in the north or labelled traitor for applying to the property commission for compensation. You demand we take of our life jackets knowing the waters are deep and rough leaving us to the mercy of GC winds and waves that will take us under. We demand no just a life jacket we are much wiser and demand more safeguards to ensure that 800.000 GCs will not be given the opportunity to drown us out of our rights to share this country as equal communities.

As for your choice between living in a Democratic Cyprus or becoming part of Turkey, is a easy one. All TC's who wish to be part of Turkey, can ask to immigrate to Turkey and the problem will be solved, that's assuming that the Turks will take the TC's in the first place. My guess is, you will be told to take a hike unless part of Cyprus comes with it. They have enough people in Turkey, and they don't need more mouths to feed. But if they say YES, then you will have Turkey's Guarantorship from now until eternity in Turkey, or at least as long as Turkey stays intact. You do not own any part of Cyprus to take it with you to give it to Turkey. It is about time you have learned this very simple problem that you keep threatening everyone with. Just like Iceman very bravely has been telling Zan in many ways the last day or so, in which I would characterize it, that the TC's and the settlers are very much like
OIL & WATER, in which the settlers are the OIL since they are the majority and are all on top of you, and getting OILIER by the minute.!!

We will not be going anywhere the TRNC recognized or not is our country or safe haven call it what you will but its an entity that looks like it will be around for a long time to come based on the debates we have on this forum. I respect Icemans views because he gives them honestly and without running TCs into the ground at every opportunity unlike you who still has problem understanding your ethnic origins are Turkish the oil you want to deny. (Still believe you are Greek or GC)

(Still believe you are Greek or GC)

Why, just because Bananiot said so to you, being that you are both good friends or because you do not like a straight talker.???

TC's going to the south for work or shopping is not what you were talking about. My response was for you telling us, that the TC's still come to the north to sleep, is what you were talking about, as if they have another choice without being terrorized, if they did chose to live in the south.!

Havent met any sorry dont see them running south, no one is stopping them because no one gives a shit. you cannot understand this becuase you have not been to the TRNC and have not seen TCs living in their own environment, why should we go south its has nothing we want, we do not want to live in a GC state run by GCs this you have to ttry and understand. Its the same as not wanting to live in a French state or Italian state, lovely places but would not want to reside there, why is this so hard to understand the GC south is like a foreign place we can visit but we always want to come home to the TRNC.

Then I guess the north will be like a "foreign land" to the TC's you are talking about after a solution comes and the GC's goes back to their homes and properties, those that chooses to.!!

I wonder what will you be saying then VP, or will you swim to Turkey without a "life jacket" just to get away from the "foreign north".!!

Guess what VP. As soon as you reach the shores of Turkey, it will be then, that you will know what "foreign land" is going to look like to the TC's who will wish to flee.!

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Those that choose to come and live in the north state are welcome I have no problem with that.

[eracles]

Those that choose to come and live in the north state are welcome I have no problem with that.

...as long as they take their place at the back of the queue right?

[Viewpoint]

Those that choose to come and live in the north state are welcome I have no problem with that.

...as long as they take their place at the back of the queue right?

I trust TCs more to do the right thing than I do GCs.

[eracles]

Those that choose to come and live in the north state are welcome I have no problem with that.

...as long as they take their place at the back of the queue right?

I trust TCs more to do the right thing than I do GCs.

aha, so you will definitely be appointing GCs to jobs without bias...like not trusting them to do the right thing???

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Those that choose to come and live in the north state are welcome I have no problem with that.

...as long as they take their place at the back of the queue right?

I trust TCs more to do the right thing than I do GCs.

aha, so you will definitely be appointing GCs to jobs without bias...like not trusting them to do the right thing???

Its OK for me to trust GCs but not for GCs to trust TCs? thats why allow there to be 2 states where people can choose who they want to trust.