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[roseandchan]

i didn't say that the turkish flag was unrecognised, i said the trnc flag was. nothing to do with religion. if you check out world flags you will not find the trnc flag as a recognised flag. recognised only here in the trnc.

[vaughanwilliams]

At the risk of being accused of making cheap points by cutting/pasting, the letter in todays Sunday Mail from a GC refugee asks the same question as I have.

"As an Anglo-Cypriot resident of Famagusta until August 1974, I would like to congratulate Anorthosis Football Club for its outstanding achievement...........

However, I think it’s high time that their supporters took a long, hard look at the flag that they insisted on waving. Namely, Greek. It is astonishing that Anorthosis supporters who went to the recent return match in Athens were draped in Greek flags and for their pains had to sprint for safety as they were pelted with stones, chairs and other missiles. While watching the game on television, the only flags I saw being waved in the visitors’ section, no doubt by these same fans, were Greek.

To cap it all, in the stadium the Greek fans taunted the Anorthosis fans with the word “Ottomans”. Even if you take into consideration the highly charged tribal atmosphere and the fact that football matches tend to bring out unruly behaviour, in the circumstances I personally found it galling to see the profusion of these Greek flags. Surely I don’t have to remind people that it was the Greek inspired coup of July 15, 1974 that was the catalyst for the Turkish invasion and as a result tens of thousands of Famagusta’s residents became refugees. Yet it’s incomprehensible that Cypriots continue to wave the flag of a nation which was not only central to unleashing these catastrophic events but who also mocked and called them “Ottomans” into the bargain.

Although I fully understand the historical and emotional ties between Greece and Cyprus, it’s time that this schizophrenic nationalism was dumped...... the fans should be waving the Cypriot flag – NOT the Greek flag – and be proud to do so. Perhaps the club and possibly the government could take the lead in promoting this and appeal to the fans as the eyes of tens of millions of people will be watching these games. Apart from confusing the rest of the world....."

My concern about this misplaced nationalism is that it shows a schism in the GC mentality which is immature at best and dangerous at worst. It also sends a message to the world in general and TC's in particular that deep down you think you are a Greek not a Cypriot. Surely, the whole emphasis and drive behind the latest solution talks is that it should be by Cypriots for Cypriots.

[vaughanwilliams]

roseandchan,

Please read my previous post about the TRNC flag again.
I repeat, the TRNC may be unrecognized, its flag isn't.

The red crescent and star with a red band above and below them, on a white background IS RECOGNISED as the flag of the UNRECOGNISED TRNC. You seem to be associating the TRNC flag with the Turkish flag because of the icons and colours in its make-up. I maintain that these are very common in countries with a muslim background, not just Turkey. Look at countries as far away as Singapore.

The flag exists even if the state doesn't.
Geddit?

[zan]

am sure you'd have the answer Zan >>>>

I knew it would all get to much for you....Whoooooosh!!!!

[zan]

roseandchan,

Please read my previous post about the TRNC flag again.
I repeat, the TRNC may be unrecognized, its flag isn't.

The red crescent and star with a red band above and below them, on a white background IS RECOGNISED as the flag of the UNRECOGNISED TRNC. You seem to be associating the TRNC flag with the Turkish flag because of the icons and colours in its make-up. I maintain that these are very common in countries with a muslim background, not just Turkey. Look at countries as far away as Singapore.

The flag exists even if the state doesn't.
Geddit?

The flag is flying outside the TRNC offices in London and no one can make them take it down....

[humanist]

am not interested in the animosity you are showing towards me or the GC's in general mate ........ if you think your a winner by throwing abuse and trying to out do me that is fine Zan. I am a 40 old man and I am not going to engage you in game playing. Have a nice day. I guess it is too much for me to handle.

[zan]

am not interested in the animosity you are showing towards me or the GC's in general mate ........ if you think your a winner by throwing abuse and trying to out do me that is fine Zan. I am a 40 old man and I am not going to engage you in game playing. Have a nice day. I guess it is too much for me to handle.

Now it's my fault again......I have explained many times about who I am targeting and it is not the GC people in general mate so stop your crying......You invited a reaction to your posts and got them...Would you rather you were ignored????

[DT.]

roseandchan,

Please read my previous post about the TRNC flag again.
I repeat, the TRNC may be unrecognized, its flag isn't.

The red crescent and star with a red band above and below them, on a white background IS RECOGNISED as the flag of the UNRECOGNISED TRNC. You seem to be associating the TRNC flag with the Turkish flag because of the icons and colours in its make-up. I maintain that these are very common in countries with a muslim background, not just Turkey. Look at countries as far away as Singapore.

The flag exists even if the state doesn't.
Geddit?

The flag is flying outside the TRNC offices in London and no one can make them take it down....

I've seen this flag fly in London as well outside certain pubs. Doesn't mean its a country though. Just a lot of happy people gathered outside.

[zan]

roseandchan,

Please read my previous post about the TRNC flag again.
I repeat, the TRNC may be unrecognized, its flag isn't.

The red crescent and star with a red band above and below them, on a white background IS RECOGNISED as the flag of the UNRECOGNISED TRNC. You seem to be associating the TRNC flag with the Turkish flag because of the icons and colours in its make-up. I maintain that these are very common in countries with a muslim background, not just Turkey. Look at countries as far away as Singapore.

The flag exists even if the state doesn't.
Geddit?

The flag is flying outside the TRNC offices in London and no one can make them take it down....

I've seen this flag fly in London as well outside certain pubs. Doesn't mean its a country though. Just a lot of happy people gathered outside.

Neither is illegal then...That was the point of the discussion.....

[DT.]

roseandchan,

Please read my previous post about the TRNC flag again.
I repeat, the TRNC may be unrecognized, its flag isn't.

The red crescent and star with a red band above and below them, on a white background IS RECOGNISED as the flag of the UNRECOGNISED TRNC. You seem to be associating the TRNC flag with the Turkish flag because of the icons and colours in its make-up. I maintain that these are very common in countries with a muslim background, not just Turkey. Look at countries as far away as Singapore.

The flag exists even if the state doesn't.
Geddit?

The flag is flying outside the TRNC offices in London and no one can make them take it down....

I've seen this flag fly in London as well outside certain pubs. Doesn't mean its a country though. Just a lot of happy people gathered outside.

Neither is illegal then...That was the point of the discussion.....

You can fly anything you like. The important thing is that the entity the flag represents is an illegal and unrecognised one. Situations were confusion might lead to someone thinking otherwise, then action needs to be taken.