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[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr Kifeas

If that is your interpretation, then you are entitled to it.

I was actually thinking of the Economic Embargoes imposed upon the Turkish Cypriot People at the behest of Greece and RoC.

Strange how Mr Achilles "small" players seem determined to support the Underdog

[Kifeas]

Mr Kifeas

If that is your interpretation, then you are entitled to it.

I was actually thinking of the Economic Embargoes imposed upon the Turkish Cypriot People at the behest of Greece and RoC.

Strange how Mr Achilles "small" players seem determined to support the Underdog

Mr. Suetoniuspaulinos,
No one is imposing economic embargoes to the Turkish Cypriots. The international courts and the UN Security Council resolutions are imposing embargoes to the area that is occupied by Turkey. Unfortunately it affects also the people who live under the occupation regime, but at the same time, Turkey illegally denies all the property rights of 200,000 people, something for which she (Turkey) has been condemned numerous times by ECHR, UN SC and other international organisations.

Who are Mr Achilles "small" players?

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr Kifeas

Achilles wrote "They have a big mouth simply because they are backed by Uncle Sam, Turkey and other minor players in the region."

I apologise he seems to think that US and Turkey are "minor" players not s"small" players.

Indeed there are Economic Embargoes Mr Kifeas. I promise you this is true.

The "minor" players are now trying to raies these embargoes, inluding EU, UN, US, UK et al becuae obviously , for some reason , they have changed their minds about the situation. They haven't exactly forgiven our tresspasses but they are coming round to understanding that we are not EXCLUSIVELY the bad gus,

"Every dog has his day" Mr Kifeas. You have had yours for 40+ years.

Now it is our turn.

[Kifeas]

Mr Kifeas
Indeed there are Economic Embargoes Mr Kifeas. I promise you this is true.

There are economic embargoes because of legal decisions by international courts. The economic embargoes are against the occupation regime in the north. The Turkish Cypriots can do their trade, flights, etc, through the legal ports of the free part of Cyprus. They couldn't do so for 30 years because Turkey and the occupation regime had sealed the occupation "boarder" and they didn't allow even a dog to cross either direction. For all these violations, a Turkish Cypriot has taken Turkey to the ECHR and she has been condemned. Turkey is the real responsible and guilty party for the economic isolation of the TCs for 30 years. At least these are the foundlings and conclusions of international courts.

The "minor" players are now trying to raies these embargoes, inluding EU, UN, US, UK et al becuae obviously , for some reason , they have changed their minds about the situation. They haven't exactly forgiven our tresspasses but they are coming round to understanding that we are not EXCLUSIVELY the bad gus,

The embargoes will be lifted only when Turkey lifts its occupation forces from north Cyprus, repatriated her illegally transported citizens and lets the people gain accesses to their properties, homes and villages. If we will agree to give some of our properties to the TCs, in order to facilitate their stay in the north (those who do not wish to return back to their old villages in the south,) that is a totally different story. Turkey has no right to impose anything upon us, nor does she have a right to impose her will on the TCs.

"Every dog has his day" Mr Kifeas. You have had yours for 40+ years.

Now it is our turn.

Unfortunately we are a very old dog. About 3,500 years old. Your "days," in our case are counted by centuries.

[Murtaza]

Mr Kifeas
Indeed there are Economic Embargoes Mr Kifeas. I promise you this is true.

There are economic embargoes because of legal decisions by international courts. The economic embargoes are against the occupation regime in the north. The Turkish Cypriots can do their trade, flights, etc, through the legal ports of the free part of Cyprus. They couldn't do so for 30 years because Turkey and the occupation regime had sealed the occupation "boarder" and they didn't allow even a dog to cross either direction. For all these violations, a Turkish Cypriot has taken Turkey to the ECHR and she has been condemned. Turkey is the real responsible and guilty party for the economic isolation of the TCs for 30 years. At least these are the foundlings and conclusions of international courts.

The "minor" players are now trying to raies these embargoes, inluding EU, UN, US, UK et al becuae obviously , for some reason , they have changed their minds about the situation. They haven't exactly forgiven our tresspasses but they are coming round to understanding that we are not EXCLUSIVELY the bad gus,

The embargoes will be lifted only when Turkey lifts its occupation forces from north Cyprus, repatriated her illegally transported citizens and lets the people gain accesses to their properties, homes and villages. If we will agree to give some of our properties to the TCs, in order to facilitate their stay in the north (those who do not wish to return back to their old villages in the south,) that is a totally different story. Turkey has no right to impose anything upon us, nor does she have a right to impose her will on the TCs.

"Every dog has his day" Mr Kifeas. You have had yours for 40+ years.

Now it is our turn.

Unfortunately we are a very old dog. About 3,500 years old. Your "days," in our case are counted by centuries.

Hmm great.
But It looks like at dog fight in past mostly we bite better.
Cant we change this dog please? Maybe goat.
Dog is not good.
What about this goat hit better? Or something like this.

Maybe problem is that, There is one cyprus and two dog?

[suetoniuspaulinus]

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Unfortunately we are a very old dog. About 3,500 years old. Your "days," in our case are counted by centuries.[/quote]

Preccisely my point Mr Kifeas. A very old dog indeed. Your mentality hasn't changed much since all that time ago but the world HAS moved on.

The rest of your post re my qutes seems to me as if the mentality WILL NOT change.

[achilles]

[quote=" within weeks.
They have a big mouth simply because they are backed by Uncle Sam, Turkey and other minor players in the region.

Wow they actually had the audacity to have some minor (?) players support them?

Mr Achilles I do believe you've lost it.

Mr. suetoniuspaulinus, that was my bad since i missed comma there. I meant USA, Turkey and other, minor players apart from the major ones already mentioned. I believe this puts it in the right context.

As for the bullying you mentioned, i say yes, and that was a moderate way to deal with them. Turkey and the pseudo-state of Northern Cyprus has no hesitation to shoot in cold blood GCs who try to bring the flag down, and Greece has no right to prevent the integiry of its national symbols through economic santions? Is this an example of 'double standards'? I really dont hope so.

Dont forget that Skopje (or FYROM if you like), adopted the Vergina Sun as its NATIONAL FLAG. That was the least Greece could do, and thankfully it worked. In any case accusing Greece for bullying in the region is a bit out of proportion i must say...

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr Achilles

The GC's bullied the TC's from 58 to 74

Our bigger brother then bullied the GC's in 74.

Then you started to cry and then your big brother then started bullying us through UN.

Then UN said "Enough Bullying" nad you PRETENDED to stop.

We are sorry you said and we will help our brothers throw off the yoke of Turkish Opression and we will help Economically and in every other way.

But you have continued to do so.

So do not be too surprised when the Really Big Boys ( and I don't mean the Norf Lundeners)
get a bit miffed with you and clout you round the earhole

[Kifeas]

Preccisely my point Mr Kifeas. A very old dog indeed. Your mentality hasn't changed much since all that time ago but the world HAS moved on.

The rest of your post re my qutes seems to me as if the mentality WILL NOT change.

Indeed the world has moved on, and so do we. Only Turkey is very slowly moving on, and unfortunately she still carries the TCs with her too.
As a very recent proof to that, we managed to make it into the E.U., while Turkey is still knocking the door.

[Kifeas]

Mr Achilles

The GC's bullied the TC's from 58 to 74

Our bigger brother then bullied the GC's in 74.

Then you started to cry and then your big brother then started bullying us through UN.

Then UN said "Enough Bullying" nad you PRETENDED to stop.

We are sorry you said and we will help our brothers throw off the yoke of Turkish Opression and we will help Economically and in every other way.

But you have continued to do so.

So do not be too surprised when the Really Big Boys ( and I don't mean the Norf Lundeners)
get a bit miffed with you and clout you round the earhole

My friend, the language of this forum is English. I do not know in which language you are writing the above, but certainly it isn't English.