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Postby Murtaza » Wed May 18, 2005 10:49 am

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In 1878 when the Ottoman Turks gave Cyprus to the British, the Turkish Cypriots were 25% of the population. Of course you have to take into consideration that many Greek Cypriots vanished or emigrated from Cyprus during the 300 years of Ottoman Turkish oppression due to the hard ships, torturing and mass murders by the Ottoman Turks.

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Any Proof? I mean if Ottoman mades that much mass murder, Arent Greeks too much in land now? Just have a proof about this murders? Or link ? want to learn about this mass murders and torturings. I mean a link show proofs not words. I dont know if they did or not. But Ottomans were not like of genocide. I will be happy if you show me proof.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 18, 2005 10:53 am

EOKA wrote:The TC population as a percentage of the whole population would be far less now than the 18% pre 74 figure. There are more Turkish settlers than TC's today. I believe the TC population of today would be less than 10%. :?


The indigenous TC population currently living in the north is between 90 -100 thousand people. This number constitutes only 12.6% of the total permanent population of Cyprus nowadays. Of course in their books they still include all the TCs who permanently emigrated from Cyprus after 1974 (some 30%-35%) and they went to England, Australian, Turkey, etc. This is a practice is not followed by the RoC, which subtracts from the population lists all those that emigrate from Cyprus permanently. The international standard practice is to subtract those permanently emigrating from your population lists.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed May 18, 2005 10:58 am

Still waiting proof for murderous act ottoman made. Dont anyone know anything about this topic? Or this is just an empty attack to Ottomans?
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Postby gabaston » Wed May 18, 2005 11:07 am

oooooo

wait till Piratis tells you his version...............oooooooof

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Postby Murtaza » Wed May 18, 2005 11:09 am

gabaston wrote:oooooo

wait till Piratis tells you his version...............oooooooof

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Dont want to read versions:) wait for proofs. Just I said before I dont want to hear words but want to see proofs.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 18, 2005 11:10 am

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Kifeas wrote:In 1878 when the Ottoman Turks gave Cyprus to the British, the Turkish Cypriots were 25% of the population. Of course you have to take into consideration that many Greek Cypriots vanished or emigrated from Cyprus during the 300 years of Ottoman Turkish oppression due to the hard ships, torturing and mass murders by the Ottoman Turks.

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Any Proof? I mean if Ottoman mades that much mass murder, Arent Greeks too much in land now? Just have a proof about this murders? Or link ? want to learn about this mass murders and torturings. I mean a link show proofs not words. I dont know if they did or not. But Ottomans were not like of genocide. I will be happy if you show me proof.



First of all, I didn't speak about genocide, unlike the TCs who consider the 700 TCs who were killed from 1963 until 1974, as a committed genocide on behalf of the GCs, while forgetting at the same time that another 400 GCs were also killed during the same period.

I am not aware of any Internet link right now. Of course there are plenty of Cypriot and foreign sources (European consulars and ambassadors in Cyprus during those times) that give a lot of eye witnessing information and account.

For example, only in one occassion, on the 9th of July 1821, Archbishop Kyprianos and some 480 prominent GCs were murdered by the Ottoman Turks in the most cruel-some way a human mind can ever imagine, simply because there were rumors that Archbishop Kyprianos was a member of the Filiki Eteria, which was founded in Rumania and was the political organization of the Greek independence revolution.

Please do not ask me to describe here the method by which these 480 GCs were murdered, because it will be the most sickening thing you or anyone else have ever read in your life.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed May 18, 2005 11:22 am

Kifeas wrote:
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Kifeas wrote:In 1878 when the Ottoman Turks gave Cyprus to the British, the Turkish Cypriots were 25% of the population. Of course you have to take into consideration that many Greek Cypriots vanished or emigrated from Cyprus during the 300 years of Ottoman Turkish oppression due to the hard ships, torturing and mass murders by the Ottoman Turks.

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Any Proof? I mean if Ottoman mades that much mass murder, Arent Greeks too much in land now? Just have a proof about this murders? Or link ? want to learn about this mass murders and torturings. I mean a link show proofs not words. I dont know if they did or not. But Ottomans were not like of genocide. I will be happy if you show me proof.



First of all, I didn't speak about genocide, unlike the TCs who consider the 700 TCs who were killed from 1963 until 1974, as a committed genocide on behalf of the GCs, while forgetting at the same time that another 400 GCs were also killed during the same period.

I am not aware of any Internet link right now. Of course there are plenty of Cypriot and foreign sources (European consulars and ambassadors in Cyprus during those times) that give a lot of eye witnessing information and account.

For example, only on the 9th of July 1821, Archbishop Kyprianos and some 480 hundred prominent GCs were murdered by the Ottoman Turks in the most cruel-some way a human mind can ever imagine, simply because there were rumors that Archbishop Kyprianos was a member of the Filiki Eteria, which was founded in Rumania and was the political organization of the Greek independence revolution.

Please do not ask me to describe here the method by which these 480 GCs were murdered, because it will be the most sickening thing you or anyone else have ever read in your life.


Dont ask methots or words. ask for proofs. And in the 1756 Murtaza and his 312213 followers killed because they want to be a proof wanter. I said proof not words.I dont see any reason for killing in cyprus. and I dont see ottomans as murderers without reason. And 9th of July 1821 At this times nationality is not idea ottomans accepted.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 18, 2005 11:26 am

Murtaza wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Murtaza wrote:
Kifeas wrote:In 1878 when the Ottoman Turks gave Cyprus to the British, the Turkish Cypriots were 25% of the population. Of course you have to take into consideration that many Greek Cypriots vanished or emigrated from Cyprus during the 300 years of Ottoman Turkish oppression due to the hard ships, torturing and mass murders by the Ottoman Turks.

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Any Proof? I mean if Ottoman mades that much mass murder, Arent Greeks too much in land now? Just have a proof about this murders? Or link ? want to learn about this mass murders and torturings. I mean a link show proofs not words. I dont know if they did or not. But Ottomans were not like of genocide. I will be happy if you show me proof.



First of all, I didn't speak about genocide, unlike the TCs who consider the 700 TCs who were killed from 1963 until 1974, as a committed genocide on behalf of the GCs, while forgetting at the same time that another 400 GCs were also killed during the same period.

I am not aware of any Internet link right now. Of course there are plenty of Cypriot and foreign sources (European consulars and ambassadors in Cyprus during those times) that give a lot of eye witnessing information and account.

For example, only on the 9th of July 1821, Archbishop Kyprianos and some 480 hundred prominent GCs were murdered by the Ottoman Turks in the most cruel-some way a human mind can ever imagine, simply because there were rumors that Archbishop Kyprianos was a member of the Filiki Eteria, which was founded in Rumania and was the political organization of the Greek independence revolution.

Please do not ask me to describe here the method by which these 480 GCs were murdered, because it will be the most sickening thing you or anyone else have ever read in your life.


Dont ask methots or words. ask for proofs. And in the 1756 Murtaza and his 312213 followers killed because they want to be a proof wanter. I said proof not words.I dont see any reason for killing in cyprus. and I dont see ottomans as murderers without reason. And 9th of July 1821 At this times nationality is not idea ottomans accepted.


Sorry my friend but I do not understand what you are talking here. Can you not write in better English? Write what you want to say in Turkish and hopefully someone else will translate for us in English.
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Postby EOKA » Wed May 18, 2005 11:27 am

8) Murtaza, we all know that you people even deny history. Turks do not even apologise for the fact that Ottomans conducted genocide of 1.5 million Armenians in 1915. There is plenty of proof however that the Armenian genocide did occur along with the ethnic cleansing of 300000 greeks in Asia Minor.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed May 18, 2005 11:37 am

EOKA wrote:8) Murtaza, we all know that you people even deny history. Turks do not even apologise for the fact that Ottomans conducted genocide of 1.5 million Armenians in 1915. There is plenty of proof however that the Armenian genocide did occur along with the ethnic cleansing of 300000 greeks in Asia Minor.


was it that much difficult to understand ? I want to see proof. But you are telling me you killed that one this one, the other one bla bla bla. Need a proof.

And now we have other ethnic cleansing in asia minor? Great lets accept greek genocide too. When they are attacking our anatolia, we are guilty again. Hmm Ironic. Maybe greece come to protect their people from us?

About the Armenian genocide, we opened our archives to all. But Until know just one citizen of Armenia enter this archives. Hmmm They should be realy sure with the Genocide. So they dont want to see archives of Turkey that forced to accept their So called Armenian Genocide. What a academic approach
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