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[Piratis]

Yes but why is there only 18% TC

Because the Ottomans didn't manage to turn into Muslim everybody in Cyprus.

You can live freely and fairly, as long as we can live freely and fairly in our country (which is the whole Cyprus) also. Any problem with that?

[negotiator]

Excuse me who has the embagos imposed on them?

Who can not have direct flights to them.

Further more the Ottomans did not force islam on any country, their religon was not a what had to be followed.

Again please quote facts not propaganda. Research what you are saying before you decide to comment!

[magikthrill]

Yes but why is there only 18% TC there they had to flee because of the circumstances they have been subjected to. If we had the freedom of trade and live as GC have had we would have a higher more prductive population. We have been supressed and squeezed like lemons for the past 40 years! It is now time that we are able to live freely and fairly!

Everyone wants to live freely and fairly negotiator. GCs might have the power to trade but they dont have the freedom to rightly and safely enjoy their property.

TCs deserve their own country as much as GCs deserve to politically dominate TCs.

[pantelis]

Excuse me who has the embagos imposed on them?

Who can not have direct flights to them.

Why the "embargos" do not stop the Anatolian settlers from coming to Cyprus?
Why the "embargos" and the "luck" of direct flights do not prevent the Brits and the Israelites from buying the GC properties?

Why, the the TCs and the GCs are the only losers from what has been, and still is, going on in Cyprus?

Is this the kind of solution that the non-Cypriots promote?

What would be the effect of the A-plan’s provision, of opening Cyprus’ doors to unrestricted numbers of Turkish settlers, 19 years after the “solution”? What would the GCs, the TCs or the British investors/settlers do, when the island is flooded with poor Turkish settlers looking for food and work, which cannot be provided?

[negotiator]

You have very bigotted views. You need to stop listerning to Brain Washing Propaganda and look at the World and the Issue as a whole. Not what you think you are going to loose but what you are going to gain!

[MicAtCyp]

Negotiator,


The number of the TCs was always 18% of the population.Many of them emmigrated in the 60s but likewise many GCs did the same too.Still the proportion remained unaltered.
Regarding the land ownership: Ever since the British came here and created records the TCs privately owned lands were 12%. The GCs privately owned lands were around 60%. The rest was state land.

You ask about the so called "unfair embargoes". How about the unfair holding of 37% of land (exactly double) than what you are entitled, how about the unfair displacement of 200,000 GC refugees from their homes and lands, and how about keeping Famagusta barbed for 30 years and its citizens refugees?

[EOKA]

Any Brits or other foreigners that purchace GC properties in the north which were illegally obtained in 74, will one day lose them as they rightfully belong to GC refugees.

[Kifeas]

Negotiator,


The number of the TCs was always 18% of the population.Many of them emmigrated in the 60s but likewise many GCs did the same too.Still the proportion remained unaltered.
Regarding the land ownership: Ever since the British came here and created records the TCs privately owned lands were 12%. The GCs privately owned lands were around 60%. The rest was state land.

You ask about the so called "unfair embargoes". How about the unfair holding of 37% of land (exactly double) than what you are entitled, how about the unfair displacement of 200,000 GC refugees from their homes and lands, and how about keeping Famagusta barbed for 30 years and its citizens refugees?

Mike, you make a mistake here!

In 1878 when the Ottoman Turks gave Cyprus to the British, the Turkish Cypriots were 25% of the population. Of course you have to take into consideration that many Greek Cypriots vanished or emigrated from Cyprus during the 300 years of Ottoman Turkish oppression due to the hard ships, torturing and mass murders by the Ottoman Turks.

After Britain took over, many Turks who were closely associated with the oppressive Ottoman Turkish rulers have decided to live Cyprus and go to turkey together with the Ottoman administration and Ottoman garrison. As a result, the TC population shifted down to the 18% which remained the same until 1974.

[EOKA]

The TC population as a percentage of the whole population would be far less now than the 18% pre 74 figure. There are more Turkish settlers than TC's today. I believe the TC population of today would be less than 10%.

[JustAnAmerican]

Prediction as to what will follow:
GOC's "new Annan" plan and new negotiations will result in a new vote in 18 to 24 months. Most of the new requirements presented over the last few days have raised the concession bar enormously. Maybe too high for the TRNC to swallow. Some of the requirements and compensation amounts will have to be dropped and without any total G/C popular support, the new initiative will fail again.
This time, after the second failed vote, the EU, the UK and the US will realize it is time to recognize the TRNC. Many attempts at peace have been made in vain; time to move on to making TRNC and GOC secure, separate countries. Double enosis.