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[Medman]

Cypriots in the UK and other parts of the world are more right wing than their counterparts on the island. We visit Cyprus on holiday and have noticed a change in mentality of the Cypriot people since the Annan Vote. The Cypriots in Cyprus have discovered that money makes the world go around. Stuff the environment, with the so called Green island turning in to a place of deceit, environmental pollution and a disjointed building sites.

The problem that I have found is that if you're from the UK, the locals (especially in the tourism sector) will try and con you given have the chance. They know your dialect and it doesn't matter if you're parents are Cypriot or not. The Cyprus problem has created a nation of entrepreneurs and you know if Maras/Varosha is ever opened up some one or some companies will make a damn killing (just look at Iraq).

Cyprus will never go forward because of the blame game mentality. The Greek Cypriots believe Cyprus is there's and the Turks likewise. The current water crisis is what will knock a few heads together in both communities. However no one has the guts to compromise because of the mentality of some members of their respective communities. It would be political suicide and is it honestly logisticaly possible to all go home and forgive and forget?

Come on!

[Oracle]

We visit Cyprus on holiday and have noticed a .......

Well aside from the fact that people should not allow holiday impressions to take precedence over normal reality regarding people's practices, culture, financial status etc. (all the things in fact that you have done) .... you seem also to have a problem about where you were going.

Granted Cyprus and Syria are both in the eastern Mediterranean ... but which one did you mean to visit, and how did you get into such a mix-up?

[Medman]

As a Turkish Cypriot myself 'Oracle' I get different perspectives about Cyprus and all her problems. I love the island, have researched and examined most points of view, but the Cyprus problem is more complex than the Northern Ireland issue and the break up of Yugoslavia. I'm more concerned about what is happening to the once beautiful island, which is amass with concrete as if there is a rush to tarmac everything before a proper solution. Did the TC's really expect the EU and the world to keep to its promises? The fact is the GC's won the propaganda game a long time ago.

The Syrian thing, well the star in the Syrian flag is suppose to represent Cyprus. Did you know that?

[Piratis]

Did the TC's really expect the EU and the world to keep to its promises? The fact is the GC's won the propaganda game a long time ago.

GCs won the "propaganda war"?? And that is because we are a super power and imposed our own way? Because we are super smart and managed to outsmart the stupid Turks? Because we are very rich with a huge market and others need us? Because we have the super power as our closest ally??

The only thing that GCs have on their side is justice, and anything we "won" we won it because of that. There are some things that simply not even the closest friends of Turkey could deny.

What Turkey has on its side is a powerful army, a big market which others want to use, a lot of natural resources and USA as their closest ally. This is why justice has not been served in Cyprus. Otherwise Cyprus would be a united peaceful island, Cypriots would determine the destiny of their own island in a democratic way and not based on what some foreigners demand, and the TC minority would have all their human and democratic rights like every other minority in the world, without Turkey and UK trying to use them as an excuse to deny to Cypriots their freedom and self-determination.

[Oracle]

As a Turkish Cypriot myself 'Oracle' I get different perspectives about Cyprus and all her problems. I love the island, have researched and examined most points of view, but the Cyprus problem is more complex than the Northern Ireland issue and the break up of Yugoslavia. I'm more concerned about what is happening to the once beautiful island, which is amass with concrete as if there is a rush to tarmac everything before a proper solution. Did the TC's really expect the EU and the world to keep to its promises? The fact is the GC's won the propaganda game a long time ago.

The Syrian thing, well the star in the Syrian flag is suppose to represent Cyprus. Did you know that?

If you Turks left there would be no problem with Cyprus ..

BTW ... you have still not adequately explained your thread title!

[humanist]

med man I thinkl you have pre existing assumptions and perceptions and you cannot remain neutral. The fact that you used the work CC"s won the propaganda ages ago is a fact that you have not been able to maintain a neutral position. I believe your post is nul and void.

I was in Cyprus last year and visited the occupied areas, firstly I paid 10 pounds more to hire a car in the occupied areas than I woud have in the free areas, I paid to go to the toilet and visit religious sites in my own country.

secondly I do agree that Cypriots will take advantage of tourists, then again so do the Indian's and Israelites. We have a choice to buy or not to buy.

Don't forget that in UK you get ripped off each and every day by your friendy bureaucrat system.