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Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:23 pm

thank-you for the information. when I was young and my village thrived, its name was of Arabic origin (or is "Komi" a "Greek" word as well, and what about the word Kebir?) we had pride in that, too. my understanding that Galatia was of Turkish origin may be mistaken, but it is heartening that there are other Cypriots who are proud of our Patrimony rather than simply dismissing it because it is not "Turkish".
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:04 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:thank-you for the information. when I was young and my village thrived, its name was of Arabic origin (or is "Komi" a "Greek" word as well, and what about the word Kebir?) we had pride in that, too. my understanding that Galatia was of Turkish origin may be mistaken, but it is heartening that there are other Cypriots who are proud of our Patrimony rather than simply dismissing it because it is not "Turkish".


Hi RW - It was with some sadness that I read your penultimate post. My sympathies.

A relative often speaks of his days in Komi Kebir, pre-'60. I'll seek him out and post something if of value.
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Postby Jerry » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:15 pm

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repulsewarrior wrote:thank-you for the information. when I was young and my village thrived, its name was of Arabic origin (or is "Komi" a "Greek" word as well, and what about the word Kebir?) we had pride in that, too. my understanding that Galatia was of Turkish origin may be mistaken, but it is heartening that there are other Cypriots who are proud of our Patrimony rather than simply dismissing it because it is not "Turkish".


Hi RW - It was with some sadness that I read your penultimate post. My sympathies.

A relative often speaks of his days in Komi Kebir, pre-'60. I'll seek him out and post something if of value.


Hey RW and Bill, my Dad came from Komi Kebir. He left in 1935 but some of his family lived their until 1974. The family home was behind the police station, it had two large metal gates. I first stayed there in 1961, I remember the primitive toilet and having to fetch water from the village tap, no electricity just paraffin lamps at night. My dad took us to the kafeneon to "show off" his sons to the village men, we thought they were very rude at first because they kept staring but they were very kind and made a fuss of us.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:23 pm

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bill cobbett wrote:What a load of drivel Zon !

Zon promised the members of the Forum some "thoughts and experiences" of the Occupied North and the Karpas and so far all we've got is a waste of space.

Zon hasn't even bothered to make some notes of the villages he is passing through to the extent Zon can't give us the names of these villages! Probably asking far too much to expect that he would have taken a list of the village names in the usual three languages ( readily available on the internet - I always have one in my suitcase ).

What got my goat - he seemed unaware that the Occupied Village of Rizokarpasso contains a large number of enclaved greek speakers and that to a large extent it's a mixed village (rather like Pyla - he probably doesn't know about that one either :roll: ). What sort of self-respecting Cypriot doesn't know of the situation in Rizokarpasso?

Zon - take some advice - stop the car, get out of the car, go out of your way to talk to people, find out what they're thinking, how they're getting on etc etc. and then come back and tell forum members about it. Describe the state of the countryside while you're at it. "Thoughts and experiences" - so far, apart from exchanging glances with the priest at ApAn, meaningless self-important drivel.:roll:

Can't wait for the next thrilling chapter - what Zon had for breakfast, what he had for dinner, what the children had for tea, what colour the hire car is.... etc etc

Anyway, despite the personal insults hope Zan enjoys his holiday. :)


you are more than welcome to fill in the gaps re GR but these are my thoughts and If you are willing to pay me a handsome son then I am more than willing to perform an ordnance survey for you but not until you pay.

My trip is none that I am taking with my family so I have to balance out a family holiday with what I can do in respect to the Cyprob. The idea of stopping off and asking the first GC I see what he thinks about his situation is just plain stupid. what do you think they are going to tell a man who does that...The truth....what a bloody idiot you are, although I know this is just to disrupt the thread and take away from one simple question I asked........How many TC cafes and restaurants do you have that are as visible as the ones I saw. such a great |Cypriot as you should be able to give me exact locations that maybe someone like Halil can confirm. re you going to answer this or just beat your tiny chest and make stupid noises.

My concern, this time around is what the TCs think and feel about your ridiculous offer of re-unification not the muted responses of the GCs ion the TRNC. Not that I think they will lie because they want to but because the feel they have to. I already have anticipated what the general message will be........" Lets re-unify so we can all be Cypriots and we can all move back to our homes". Never mind all the politics and problems of Cyprus....Such a simple and positively destructive situation for the TCs.


Anyway.....I have wasted enough time on a moron like you ta ta for now!!!!


Our dear Zenda, I can understand why many feel you are a waste of cyberspace. What a so important plonker - stop the car, get out and talk to the turkish speaking community and then report back. Don't forget to describe the countryside ooh and village names are always useful.

Have you got it now it, platt ? Do try and get you and your "narative" beyond being failures.

Wonder what he had for breakfast?
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:37 pm

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bill cobbett wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:thank-you for the information. when I was young and my village thrived, its name was of Arabic origin (or is "Komi" a "Greek" word as well, and what about the word Kebir?) we had pride in that, too. my understanding that Galatia was of Turkish origin may be mistaken, but it is heartening that there are other Cypriots who are proud of our Patrimony rather than simply dismissing it because it is not "Turkish".


Hi RW - It was with some sadness that I read your penultimate post. My sympathies.

A relative often speaks of his days in Komi Kebir, pre-'60. I'll seek him out and post something if of value.


Hey RW and Bill, my Dad came from Komi Kebir. He left in 1935 but some of his family lived their until 1974. The family home was behind the police station, it had two large metal gates. I first stayed there in 1961, I remember the primitive toilet and having to fetch water from the village tap, no electricity just paraffin lamps at night. My dad took us to the kafeneon to "show off" his sons to the village men, we thought they were very rude at first because they kept staring but they were very kind and made a fuss of us.


Hi Jerry. Regretfully I have never visited KK. The name has always intigued me and may stop off there in a few days time if it fits in with mrs c's plans :roll:

I do believe that Koma Tou Yiallou (another brill name) is in that area.

Re: the electricity. I remember my mother getting a letter from our late grandmother in about 67-68 when she wrote of everyone's excitement that electricity was coming to the home village in the Karpas.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:08 pm

Kebir in Arabic means big, perhaps it was the big village in the area? I remember the village as being the first to come across once you enter the Karpasia peninsula.
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Postby Jerry » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:29 pm

Nikitas wrote:Kebir in Arabic means big, perhaps it was the big village in the area? I remember the village as being the first to come across once you enter the Karpasia peninsula.


Yes Nikitas it was fairly big, I remember it had a modern olive press and people from surrounding villages used to bring their olives there on donkeys to extract the oil. We used to watch the olives being crushed in a large stone vessel and then the "mash" was put onto thick hessian (I think) mats and pressed so that the oil ran out. I seem to remember that it was mixed with water and the oil taken off. There were four policemen in KK, we used to go and talk to them in the evenings.
Two were TC and two were GC. The TC police seemed much friendlier to us (remember this was 1961) they spoke good English unlike the GC police who were obviously new recruits and less experienced at the job. Looking back now I realise that we were looked upon as British, hence the different attitudes of the policemen.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:57 pm

Jerry wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:thank-you for the information. when I was young and my village thrived, its name was of Arabic origin (or is "Komi" a "Greek" word as well, and what about the word Kebir?) we had pride in that, too. my understanding that Galatia was of Turkish origin may be mistaken, but it is heartening that there are other Cypriots who are proud of our Patrimony rather than simply dismissing it because it is not "Turkish".


Hi RW - It was with some sadness that I read your penultimate post. My sympathies.

A relative often speaks of his days in Komi Kebir, pre-'60. I'll seek him out and post something if of value.


Hey RW and Bill, my Dad came from Komi Kebir. He left in 1935 but some of his family lived their until 1974. The family home was behind the police station, it had two large metal gates. I first stayed there in 1961, I remember the primitive toilet and having to fetch water from the village tap, no electricity just paraffin lamps at night. My dad took us to the kafeneon to "show off" his sons to the village men, we thought they were very rude at first because they kept staring but they were very kind and made a fuss of us.




Ha ha. Sounds just like me in 1961. :lol: Especially the centipedes and cockroaches in those toilets which my grandmother washed down after I spent all morning carrying the water from the village tap/fountain. Where ia the difference, you say @Panayiamou', we say 'Allahu Ekber'. Is that good enough reason to hate?
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:14 pm

Jerry,

The Komi Kebir olive press has been renovated with money donated by the US embassy in Nicosia, because the building is considered a prime example of adobe construction (plitharka) and because of the symbolism of the olive tree etc. You can visit the embassy site for more info.
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Postby ttoli » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:What a load of drivel Zon !

Zon promised the members of the Forum some "thoughts and experiences" of the Occupied North and the Karpas and so far all we've got is a waste of space.

Zon hasn't even bothered to make some notes of the villages he is passing through to the extent Zon can't give us the names of these villages! Probably asking far too much to expect that he would have taken a list of the village names in the usual three languages ( readily available on the internet - I always have one in my suitcase ).

What got my goat - he seemed unaware that the Occupied Village of Rizokarpasso contains a large number of enclaved greek speakers and that to a large extent it's a mixed village (rather like Pyla - he probably doesn't know about that one either :roll: ). What sort of self-respecting Cypriot doesn't know of the situation in Rizokarpasso?

Zon - take some advice - stop the car, get out of the car, go out of your way to talk to people, find out what they're thinking, how they're getting on etc etc. and then come back and tell forum members about it. Describe the state of the countryside while you're at it. "Thoughts and experiences" - so far, apart from exchanging glances with the priest at ApAn, meaningless self-important drivel.:roll:

Can't wait for the next thrilling chapter - what Zon had for breakfast, what he had for dinner, what the children had for tea, what colour the hire car is.... etc etc

Anyway, despite the personal insults hope Zan enjoys his holiday. :)
Sorry Bill but what gives you the right to dictate, How He spends his holiday?, until such time that you are paying the bills,keep your thoughts to yourself, Perhaps He doesnt want to drag up the past, just a shame you cant follow suit.
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