Cyprus-Forum.com

[zan]

Enjoy your holiday Zan - you won't see this I guess till you're back from Karpas but if you visited Mehmetcik (Galatya I think) then I hope you bought some 'sucuks' - they are fab from there.

Out of interest, are you staying in the Famagusta area ?

what...? even the name Galatya was changed?

All villages/towns have Turkish equivalent names.

Only the mixed villages/towns. The purely Greek villages don't have Turkish names. You renamed them after the invasion to pretend that they are yours!

You have no shame in holding on to an illegal government but show great concern for street names Hellooooooooo! Reality check

What is illegal with our goverment you fucking thief? The goverment is now more legal than it ever was because it was elected by the majority of the people of this country as every democratic goverment should! If you want to cast your vote as well you are free to do it. Nobody stops you except from your criminal intentions of stealing our land from us! I am a decent law obeying European citizen. You are a shameless criminal thief and nothing more.

Right back at you pal......there is no date in which your crimes are wiped out and just because you are pardoned by the world does not mean you can get away with it. The "RoC" is not the Cyprus Republic that was formed in a legal manner....Unlike your Government now that was formed on the back of murders and massacres and sly backstabbing to get us out of our legal place. If you want to continue with your crimes then you can do so in your part of the island. Happy days to you sir.

[Sotos]

Enjoy your holiday Zan - you won't see this I guess till you're back from Karpas but if you visited Mehmetcik (Galatya I think) then I hope you bought some 'sucuks' - they are fab from there.

Out of interest, are you staying in the Famagusta area ?

what...? even the name Galatya was changed?

All villages/towns have Turkish equivalent names.

Only the mixed villages/towns. The purely Greek villages don't have Turkish names. You renamed them after the invasion to pretend that they are yours!

You have no shame in holding on to an illegal government but show great concern for street names Hellooooooooo! Reality check

What is illegal with our goverment you fucking thief? The goverment is now more legal than it ever was because it was elected by the majority of the people of this country as every democratic goverment should! If you want to cast your vote as well you are free to do it. Nobody stops you except from your criminal intentions of stealing our land from us! I am a decent law obeying European citizen. You are a shameless criminal thief and nothing more.

Right back at you pal......there is no date in which your crimes are wiped out and just because you are pardoned by the world does not mean you can get away with it. The "RoC" is not the Cyprus Republic that was formed in a legal manner....Unlike your Government now that was formed on the back of murders and massacres and sly backstabbing to get us out of our legal place. If you want to continue with your crimes then you can do so in your part of the island. Happy days to you sir.

What was formed by murders and massacres is your minority on our island. There is no date that YOUR crimes are wiped out. YOU attacked us and we just defend our island because we want freedom and democracy but you uncivilized Turks can not accept these things and you keep creating wars against us trying to stop Cyprus from becoming free and democratic. You shameless Turkish murderer is accusing us of murders and massacres when they are the ones who started it and you killed 100 times more Cypriots!! You are such a shameless criminal!

[pantheman]

Zan,

just have a good holiday with your family mate and shut the fuck up.

YOU have turned this thread into a cyprob page.

Now either just give us an account of what you see, feel and leave out the bulshit blame games.

[Nikitas]

Guys,

Cut Zan some slack. He left Cyprus as a child and does not know how it was. I read his account and cannot help but compare with what I know as Cyprus.

But the rantings about crimes etc are becoming amusing when juxtaposed to reports from TCs who think as Cypriots, and who point to the FACT that today TCs are less than half the number they were in 1974. Going through a TC village today cannot be compared to the experience of going through the same village when it was 100 per cent Cypriot. The atmosphere is not there anymore. Zan cannot know this, he has nothing to compare it to. He does not even know that Rizokarpasso was a GC village, that the Greek cafes he sees today are the remnants of what once was, not something newly created, etc etc.

I find the account interesting anyhow. It compares with accounts written by Bir and Kikapu. Same island, different people. But above all these accounts make me feel lucky, I knew these places before the onslaught of tourists, invaders, settlers, developers, investors and barbaric name changers.

It is ironic that as a GC I experienced TC villages in a state that Zan will not because Turkey has bulldozed their character to hell, which perhaps explains why the description of these villages comes through as if they are nothing special. I am waiting impatiently to hear about Kouklia in near Famagusta, and Vatyli, and other TC places that I knew so well. Vaytli had some of the best native architecture and traditional adobe building in the whole of Cyprus. I wonder what happened to it.

[tessintrnc]

Hi Zan

Go onto this website for details and directions - don't forget to have lunch at the Maronite village nearby, Maria makes the BEST yoghurt you have ever tasted - guaranteed!!!

http://www.starkibris.net/international ... berID=1438

[tessintrnc]

Makarios' lawyer? Are you referring to the businessman Kolokassides, who definitely was not a lawyer, and had built that house on Pendadaktylos back in the 50s, before Makarios was president? Last I heard the house had been commandeered by the invading army and used as a command post.

Nikitas, His name was Paulo Paolides, and if you look on the link I posted for Zan it has more info.
Tess

[Nikitas]

Tess,

we are referring to the same man, I had forgotten the name. Pavlides is the right name, he was never a lawyer, in fact I think he was the Opel dealer in Cyprus. An eccentric character of some repute but never politically connected. Interesting how urban legends can be created from the slimmest suspicions!

Makarios lawyers were Clerides and Tornaritis. And you know who and what they are!

[tessintrnc]

Tess,

we are referring to the same man, I had forgotten the name. Pavlides is the right name, he was never a lawyer, in fact I think he was the Opel dealer in Cyprus. An eccentric character of some repute but never politically connected. Interesting how urban legends can be created from the slimmest suspicions!

Makarios lawyers were Clerides and Tornaritis. And you know who and what they are!

Thanks Nikitas, very interesting how different the stories are!! But he dealt in something dodgy, otherwise why the escape tunnels and the one that leads to the beach? (this is how he smuggled guns in according to the info I read) He also went to the USA where he got involved with the mafia there and was in fact "executed" by the American mafia several years later. I did some internet research on him after visiting the house and he was not a very pleasant man by all accounts!!! They do also keep saying that he was makarios' legal adviser. Have you got any links yourself about him?

Apologies for sidetracking your thread Zan!!!!

Tess
Tess

[Nikitas]

He was eccentric but not that eccentric! As far as I know he lived to a ripe old age and died in Nicosia. There was a thread about him on this forum some months ago. I met mr Pavlides as a child, because we were thinking of buying an Opel, in the end we stayed faithful to Britain and bought a Morris Oxford instead! Which is right on track with this thread because it was in that car that we traveled through much of Cyprus. Actually mostly the Famagusta, Nicosia and Larnaca districts which I know very well. I still remember the registration number of that car, AV 64.

[pantheman]

He was eccentric but not that eccentric! As far as I know he lived to a ripe old age and died in Nicosia. There was a thread about him on this forum some months ago. I met mr Pavlides as a child, because we were thinking of buying an Opel, in the end we stayed faithful to Britain and bought a Morris Oxford instead! Which is right on track with this thread because it was in that car that we traveled through much of Cyprus. Actually mostly the Famagusta, Nicosia and Larnaca districts which I know very well. I still remember the registration number of that car, AV 64.

Nikita, just how old are you !

Mate you sound ancient