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[alexISS]

The documentary notes that Turkey was the only country that helped Greece during the period known as the “Great Hunger,” when estimates say 70,000 people died, and iincludes interviews with Greek academics and citizens who lived through the period.

Actually it was the Greek-American community in the United States that paid for the ship and its cargo

The Greek War Relief Association in the USA sends funds and in October of 1941 a Turkish ship the SS Kurtulus makes five voyages, bringing food to Athens where it is distributed by the International Red Cross

Source:
http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm

If the Turks wanted to help Greece they could have stopped providing Germany with raw materials for their war machine or even better join the allies and declare war to the nazis

[halil]

questiones and answers are in documentary . people are talking and telling they are own stories .

all are in documentary ...............

once more the what quastiones are

In the documentary, interviews with historians, survivors of the ship, witnesses, organizators of the campaign and Greeks who benefitted from the aid from Turkey will provide answers to the following questions:

What was the situation in Greece and Turkey during the Second World War?

How was the aid campaign to Greece organized?

What kind of a ship was "Liberation"

What did the crew of the ship witness?

Did Greeks who benefitted from the aid sent from Turkey remember what they suffered?

How did "Liberation" sink?

[alexISS]

So the Turkish government was paid by Greeks to send aid to Greece... And 60 years later the Turkish propagandists still use this fact, exaggerated to the realm of the surreal, to look good to the world. Whatever feelings of gratitude anyone could have for anything good you guys have done, you manage to take away by your self-praising. I'm not only talking about halil's post, I've heard and read this story countless times by many Turks, enough already!

[Nikitas]

According to Abwehr (German ministry of war during WWII) records the biggest supplier of strategic metals to the Nazis during the war was Turkey. The biggest obstacle to those supplies getting through were the Greek resistance.

[Tim Drayton]

According to Abwehr (German ministry of war during WWII) records the biggest supplier of strategic metals to the Nazis during the war was Turkey. The biggest obstacle to those supplies getting through were the Greek resistance.

I don't think it is a great secret that the Turkish government did a deal with Nazi Germany in the early stages of World War II under which, if the Germans defeated the Soviet Union, Turkey would be permitted to realise the Pan-Turkist/Turanist dream of uniting all Turkic peoples within a single state.

There is documentary evidence that certain secret meetings were held to this end. It is all a question of self-interest, or perceptions of self-interest. If Nazi Germany had actually defeated the Soviet Union, I wonder whether it would have lived up to its side of the bargain.

[Kifeas]

Wouldn’t it have been better if Turkey -instead of remaining in history as the “notorious neutral” during the WWII- had joined the allies in fighting Nazism and fascism, just like Greece did -with all the consequences that this had entailed? Wouldn’t in this way Nazism and fascism had been defeated one day, week or month earlier, saving in this way a few thousands victims more?

[Oracle]

But Turkey only intervenes when necessary, in order to bring peace ....

[Tim Drayton]

Wouldn’t it have been better if Turkey -instead of remaining in history as the “notorious neutral” during the WWII- had joined the allies in fighting Nazism and fascism, just like Greece did -with all the consequences that this had entailed? Wouldn’t in this way Nazism and fascism had been defeated one day, week or month earlier, saving in this way a few thousands victims more?

I agree.

It would also have been better if Spain and Italy had not been under fascist rule and thus natural allies of Nazi Germany. It would have been better if all the French had supported the resistance rather than, for the most part, collaborating with the Nazi-sponsored Vichy regime. It would have been better if Norway under Quisling had not supported fascist Germany. It would have been better if imperial Japan had not entered the war on Germany's side. This list could be extended.

I don't think you single Turkey out for demonisation in this regard.

This does not detract in any way from the admiration I feel for the spectacular anti-fascist struggle waged by the Greeks at this time.

[Kifeas]

Wouldn’t it have been better if Turkey -instead of remaining in history as the “notorious neutral” during the WWII- had joined the allies in fighting Nazism and fascism, just like Greece did -with all the consequences that this had entailed? Wouldn’t in this way Nazism and fascism had been defeated one day, week or month earlier, saving in this way a few thousands victims more?

I agree.

It would also have been better if Spain and Italy had not been under fascist rule and thus natural allies of Nazi Germany. It would have been better if all the French had supported the resistance rather than, for the most part, collaborating with the Nazi-sponsored Vichy regime. It would have been better if Norway under Quisling had not supported fascist Germany. It would have been better if imperial Japan had not entered the war on Germany's side. This list could be extended.

I don't think you single Turkey out for demonisation in this regard.

You are right Tim, but if it sounds like singling out Turkey, it is only because nowadays some ones in here try to pass a different picture, than what the reality was!

This does not detract in any way from the admiration I feel for the spectacular anti-fascist struggle waged by the Greeks at this time.

And we should also not forget that Greece had proportionately paid the heaviest toll, both in human and material terms, from all the courtiers involved in the WWII.

[Tim Drayton]

Wouldn’t it have been better if Turkey -instead of remaining in history as the “notorious neutral” during the WWII- had joined the allies in fighting Nazism and fascism, just like Greece did -with all the consequences that this had entailed? Wouldn’t in this way Nazism and fascism had been defeated one day, week or month earlier, saving in this way a few thousands victims more?

I agree.

It would also have been better if Spain and Italy had not been under fascist rule and thus natural allies of Nazi Germany. It would have been better if all the French had supported the resistance rather than, for the most part, collaborating with the Nazi-sponsored Vichy regime. It would have been better if Norway under Quisling had not supported fascist Germany. It would have been better if imperial Japan had not entered the war on Germany's side. This list could be extended.

I don't think you single Turkey out for demonisation in this regard.

You are right Tim, but if it sounds like singling out Turkey, it is only because nowadays some ones in here try to pass a different picture, than what the reality was!

This does not detract in any way from the admiration I feel for the spectacular anti-fascist struggle waged by the Greeks at this time.

And we should also not forget that Greece had proportionately paid the heaviest toll, both in human and material terms, from all the courtiers involved in the WWII.

We should also not forget that the allies, who supposedly had waged war against Gemany with the noble aim of fighting fascism and preserving freedom and democracy in Europe, immediately stabbed the Greek resistance in the back and supported a vicious fascist backlash against them to ensure that an authoritarian regime came to power. This "favour" was repeated in 1967.
Nobody has a monopoly on hypocrisy.