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[DT.]

İceman , best kebab is always home made ones gardaş .

I know that too well Halil...my wife is an excellent cook and i am not ashamed to say she does the kebabs also..(mind you i light the charcoal ). but here are times when we come late from work and there is no time to cook so we like to order a take away if we can.

Bet you enjoy sitting on top of the BBQ making comments about other guy's technique...(or lack of)

[denizaksulu]

i agree deniz, i don't know how long zan has been away from the north but a friend of our has just come back here to live and is finding it very hard to take everything in. we have been here for 3 years now and have adapted pretty well but this seems to be harder for cypriots returning even though they have family here.

For some of us it is hard indeed. I would love to return forever, but to my own home and lands, just like the GCs would like. Where we can understand their plight, not many GCs understand ours.

[bill cobbett]

i agree deniz, i don't know how long zan has been away from the north but a friend of our has just come back here to live and is finding it very hard to take everything in. we have been here for 3 years now and have adapted pretty well but this seems to be harder for cypriots returning even though they have family here.

For some of us it is hard indeed. I would love to return forever, but to my own home and lands, just like the GCs would like. Where we can understand their plight, not many GCs understand ours.

I for one do look forward so much to the glorious day when D feels comfortable that he can return to his estate.

[iceman]

İceman , best kebab is always home made ones gardaş .

I know that too well Halil...my wife is an excellent cook and i am not ashamed to say she does the kebabs also..(mind you i light the charcoal ). but here are times when we come late from work and there is no time to cook so we like to order a take away if we can.

Bet you enjoy sitting on top of the BBQ making comments about other guy's technique...(or lack of)

As a matter of fact i do..

[Nikitas]

Deniz said:

"Where we can understand their plight, not many GCs understand ours."

I understand it perfectly. How can people raised in Paphos accept to live in Kyrenia!! No offence meant to Kyrenians, but the Paphos area has a generosity in the countryside, it is a feeling more than specific features, which cannot be equaled by Kyrenia. I am amazed at the expressions of satisfaction voiced by some at having Kyrenia to themselves, and also at the ease with which they seem to be forgetting their home towns in the south.

Perhaps it is this expression of contentment at having exclusive possession of the north that has not allowed the GCs to appreciate that most TCs want to have their land back. But on the whole, if you exclude voices like Levent, Uludag, Ozkur and a few others the TCs have not been voicing their opinion loud enough.

[Nikitas]

Zan must be having a lazy weekend. I guess he has gone south for some Keo beers.

[iceman]

Deniz said:

"Where we can understand their plight, not many GCs understand ours."

I understand it perfectly. How can people raised in Paphos accept to live in Kyrenia!! No offence meant to Kyrenians, but the Paphos area has a generosity in the countryside, it is a feeling more than specific features, which cannot be equaled by Kyrenia. I am amazed at the expressions of satisfaction voiced by some at having Kyrenia to themselves, and also at the ease with which they seem to be forgetting their home towns in the south.

Perhaps it is this expression of contentment at having exclusive possession of the north that has not allowed the GCs to appreciate that most TCs want to have their land back. But on the whole, if you exclude voices like Levent, Uludag, Ozkur and a few others the TCs have not been voicing their opinion loud enough.

Nikitas
I was born and raised in Limassol...14 years of my life i lived there and ever since 74 i have been living in Kyrenia..(i am 48 ) when people ask me where i am from,i always (proudly) say i am from Limassol..
Although i have been living here for 34 years i have never been able to call myself Kyrenian

[denizaksulu]

Deniz said:

"Where we can understand their plight, not many GCs understand ours."

I understand it perfectly. How can people raised in Paphos accept to live in Kyrenia!! No offence meant to Kyrenians, but the Paphos area has a generosity in the countryside, it is a feeling more than specific features, which cannot be equaled by Kyrenia. I am amazed at the expressions of satisfaction voiced by some at having Kyrenia to themselves, and also at the ease with which they seem to be forgetting their home towns in the south.

Perhaps it is this expression of contentment at having exclusive possession of the north that has not allowed the GCs to appreciate that most TCs want to have their land back. But on the whole, if you exclude voices like Levent, Uludag, Ozkur and a few others the TCs have not been voicing their opinion loud enough.

Nikitas
I was born and raised in Limassol...14 years of my life i lived there and ever since 74 i have been living in Kyrenia..(i am 48 ) when people ask me where i am from,i always (proudly) say i am from Limassol..
Although i have been living here for 34 years i have never been able to call myself Kyrenian

I know how you feel Iceman. My vatan is not the north. My home is where my ancestors are buried. Where I and my people before me have toiled their land and died. (sadly my grandparents died in London of heartbreak as refugees in 1964.) Their tombstone in Woking states this too.

[Nikitas]

Deniz and Iceman,

I read your posts and I feel the same way. I do not come abstractly from the whole of Cyprus, I am a Famagusta boy since that is where I grew up. I was born inside the Nicosia walls and lived there for a short time, yet the place feels alien to me. Actually it seems suffocating with those narrow alleys, just like Florence, guess mediaeval town planning does not do it for me.

Now, given a solution with freedom of establishment, it is obvious to me at least, that people will want to return to the places they feel attached to. And as each place has its own culture and dynamic, it is natural that the situation will get away from the politicians and all those who want to keep things neatly diivided and pigeonholed. Limassolians will get on better with other Limassolians regardless of ethnic background, and the list goes on.

It wil be interesting to see how politicians will attempt to prevent this natural state from coming about.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz and Iceman,

I read your posts and I feel the same way. I do not come abstractly from the whole of Cyprus, I am a Famagusta boy since that is where I grew up. I was born inside the Nicosia walls and lived there for a short time, yet the place feels alien to me. Actually it seems suffocating with those narrow alleys, just like Florence, guess mediaeval town planning does not do it for me.

Now, given a solution with freedom of establishment, it is obvious to me at least, that people will want to return to the places they feel attached to. And as each place has its own culture and dynamic, it is natural that the situation will get away from the politicians and all those who want to keep things neatly diivided and pigeonholed. Limassolians will get on better with other Limassolians regardless of ethnic background, and the list goes on.

It wil be interesting to see how politicians will attempt to prevent this natural state from coming about.

We shall wait and see Nikitas. Most GCs complain of waiting since 1974. Thousands of TCs have been waiting since 1963. Lets hope the waiting will be fruitful.