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[Simon]

A question for all GREEK CYPRIOTS (including the ones who argue that they are not Greek in any way). I am not sure if this question how been put to a poll before, if it has, I apologise. But I hear so much about whether we are Greeks or not that I would sincerely like to know where forumers stand on this point.

Do you regard yourselves as Greek or not? I am not talking about being a Cypriot, we are all obviously Cypriots; my question is do you regard yourselves as Greek in addition to Cypriot. Yes or No?

Thank you in advance.

[Simon]

Who voted no?

Please post a comment when you vote so that we know the Poll has not been hijacked by non GCs.

[Filitsa]

A question for all GREEK CYPRIOTS (including the ones who argue that they are not Greek in any way). I am not sure if this question how been put to a poll before, if it has, I apologise. But I hear so much about whether we are Greeks or not that I would sincerely like to know where forumers stand on this point.

Do you regard yourselves as Greek or not? I am not talking about being a Cypriot, we are all obviously Cypriots; my question is do you regard yourselves as Greek in addition to Cypriot. Yes or No?

Thank you in advance.

With all due respect, Simon, the logical underpinning of this poll is tenuous. Since you are calling out to all Greek Cypriots, I think its safe to assume that anyone who votes considers himself a Greek Cypriot to some extent whether or not he wants to admit it.

[Filitsa]

On second thought, perhaps the better question would be:

If you're Cypriot, and you're not a member of a Cypriot minority, and you don't consider yourself Greek, please explain why?

[The Cypriot]

http://www.cypriotacademy.com/needtobegreek.html

[Rebel.Without.A.Pause]

Are Cretans or the people from Rhodes Greek?

China has a history of foreign invasions and occupations...are the Chinese actually Chinese?

India is made up of various tribes and other foreign influx...are people of India Indian?

Are the Turks TURKS? Turks are a total mish mash of peoples of Anatolia before the Turkic invasions in the middle ages.

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My point being of course we are Greek. You cannot find a peoples in todays world who's bloodline is pure going back to antiquity. Our culture is a continuation of the Greek culture going back to ancient times with some foreign influence added. Would you be asking this question if Cyprus was granted union with the rest of the culturally Greek islands and Greek mainland. The Cypriot Greek dialect is closer to that of Crete and Rhodes than the mainland and is a lineage of the Byzantium Greek dialect as opposed to the Greek peninsular.

Whilst I am proud of my immediate Cypriot heritage and culture...and would say support I Cyprus in a football match against Greece, I will not dismiss my Greek culture and think those that try to distinguish the two are most probably political leftists who are anti right wing. I am neither of the two. I am a Cypriot of Greek ethnicity who's political views lie with common sense.

[Piratis]

Greek Cypriots are as Greek as any other Greek. The overwhelming majority of the people of this island, for over 3000 years, speak Greek, have a Greek culture, and have a Greek religion (first the Olympus Gods and then Greek Orthodox Christianity). There are not many places in the world with such a long history of the same ethnicity on them.

The only reason that Cyprus is not part of the Greek Republic today is that this has been denied to the Cypriot people. The Cypriot people since the Greek Revolution of 1821 tried to liberate their island from foreign control many times, but unfortunately we have not managed to do so like many other Greek islands and territories.

Compare Cyprus with any other Greek territory or island (e.g. Crete) and you will see that there is absolutely no other difference between Cypriots and Cretans, Rhodians or any other Greek. Whatever you will say for Cyprus will hold true for Crete, and the only exception will be that they became part of the free Greek Republic while this was denied to us by foreign rulers due to their own geopolitical interests.

[Oracle]

http://www.cypriotacademy.com/needtobegreek.html

Dear "The Cypriot"

Would you kindly remove this "eugenic"-style comment or modify accordingly:

Ethnicity? This is almost certainly wrong on genetic grounds. The frequent appeals to both communities for bone marrow donors show Cypriots share more genes with each other than with the populations of either Greece or Turkey. We look the same, for goodness sake!

Whilst how we look may be your honorable opinion (I disagree btw), the highlighted inference to genes is scientifically invalid. The essential DNA-homology studies needed to make such a deduction have not been carried out.

Generally, it would be simplistic (and dangerous) to make sweeping speculations from isolated genetic data; and in this case completely erroneous to jump to an ethnicity association based on tissue matches. Indeed it is often the case tissue matches cannot be found within one's immediate family. By the same logic would that mean one is not in the same ethnic group as one's biological mother or father?

Genetic data is open to such abuse and if you wish to avoid purveying misinformation you need to re-consider the wording of this conclusion. Removal altogether would be more appropriate.

[I can provide you with a fuller explanation of how phenotypes (manifested characteristics) and genotypes (DNA similarities) can mislead towards unfounded relatedness if you wish.]

[paliometoxo]

we are cypriot NOT greek. all this greek cypriot crap u ppl say .. CYPRIOT NO GREEK. its like saying all americans are english americans also...

[Piratis]

Americans choose to be a separate nation because that would serve their interests better.

Cyprus was forced to be separate from the rest of Greece against the will of the vast majority of the Cypriot people because that would serve the interests of some foreign rulers.

Ethnicity? This is almost certainly wrong on genetic grounds.

Actually ethnicity has absolutely nothing to do with genes.

Ethnicity has to do with language, religion, traditions and how people identify themselves.

If it was about genes then the people that call themselves Turks would be mostly Kurds, Greeks and other Mediterranean people and would have very little to do with the original Asian Turks.