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[RichardB]

Bravo Bill

Again an excellent answer

I was beginning to think I was alone

what about me? i gave bill the lead-in to his contribution?
(i'm not totally fried)

GG it goes without saying but I'll say it that we all love you and would go public on the debt I owe you for the lead in.

...and to our great koumbara RB - [b]"you'll never walk alone"[/b] as they say in that unmentionable place up the East Lancs Road (GG - This is an esoteric reference to GB football clubs).

With hopes in our hearts mangas

[GorillaGal]

Bravo Bill

Again an excellent answer

I was beginning to think I was alone

what about me? i gave bill the lead-in to his contribution?
(i'm not totally fried)

GG it goes without saying but I'll say it that we all love you and would go public on the debt I owe you for the lead in.

...and to our great koumbara RB - "you'll never walk alone" as they say in that unmentionable place up the East Lancs Road (GG - This is an esoteric reference to GB football clubs).

thanks bill. it's nice to hear it every once in awhile.
i really enjoy this forum and the people here, i have made lots of friends and learned alot.
big hugs

[purdey]

Presumably as these adults choose to take drugs the state should not be responsible for the adverse effects these drugs cause. Maybe all state sponsered drug rehab centres, clinics and medical assistance should not be made available to these adults.
As you said nobody is forcing it upon these people, so why should the tax paying non drug taking public bail them out when their weakness leads to asking for help.

[Feisty]

if you sell drugs you are a killer, probably a mass murderer. in the uk i have seen what that shit does to people, including death. not usually a very nice one at that. i think the death penalty should stand. lots of the crimes in iran are commited by people coming in from afganistan. rape and murder usually. the iranian people want them dealt with.

that's a little tough, don't you think? they aren't FORCING the drug onto anybody. they are providing a service. in that case, kill all the liquor store shop owners and manufactureres.... a hell of alot of people die from drunk driving or psorosis of the liver.

On the matter of drugs - have to agree with GG and would I think go further in saying that what consenting adults do with their lives is not a matter for the state. If adults want to buy and sell drugs, hard as well as soft, it's up to them. I don't think we need "states" and "nanny governments" to protect us from our choices in life that effect only ourselves.

Trouble is with most of these people Bill is that they think it's ok to go and mug, burgle and shoplift to get the money to feed their habits with no thought to the consequences on other people's lives.

[tessintrnc]

if you sell drugs you are a killer, probably a mass murderer. in the uk i have seen what that shit does to people, including death. not usually a very nice one at that. i think the death penalty should stand. lots of the crimes in iran are commited by people coming in from afganistan. rape and murder usually. the iranian people want them dealt with.

that's a little tough, don't you think? they aren't FORCING the drug onto anybody. they are providing a service. in that case, kill all the liquor store shop owners and manufactureres.... a hell of alot of people die from drunk driving or psorosis of the liver.

On the matter of drugs - have to agree with GG and would I think go further in saying that what consenting adults do with their lives is not a matter for the state. If adults want to buy and sell drugs, hard as well as soft, it's up to them. I don't think we need "states" and "nanny governments" to protect us from our choices in life that effect only ourselves.

Trouble is with most of these people Bill is that they think it's ok to go and mug, burgle and shoplift to get the money to feed their habits with no thought to the consequences on other people's lives.

Do they really think that its ok Feisty, or are they just desperate? I personally don't know any drug addicts, but I have heard that it is very painful physically when the craving kicks in and thats why they do just about anything to get the next fix. There was murder in the UK near where I used to live a few mths ago, and it was a young man who killed his MOTHER because she wouldn't give him the money for the drugs. That is terrible.

[Feisty]

Yes they think it's ok. I have heard it from their very mouths that they can't wait to be able to get out on the streets again to go 'on the rob' as they term it. They seem to think that businesses can claim on insurance for shoplifting which is totally untrue.
Whether they are desperate or not, their crime sprees and the consequences on other people should not go unpunished. I'm not particularly of the opinion that the prison system works but then again I certainly don't think the softly softly approach is any better.

[Feisty]

In fact half of me feels that they should be just given as many drugs as they like so that they can overdose themselves and remove them from society which they are never going to be useful to.
Yes that may be harsh but we live in a harsh world. Very rare is it that anyone forces them to take drugs in the first place. It is then that they have the opportunity to choose their way of life.

[purdey]

Including me !
I was approached by three people 8 years ago in Northamton. I was with my wife and daughter in one of the towns car parks at 7 in the evening.
I put my daughter and wife in the car, and then was approached by one of them (a woman) who asked if I had any money. I ignored her and tried to open my car door which she then decided to kick.
The two guys then approached and again asked for money, I fumbled in my pockets and said sorry. All hell broke loose then, I was stabbed in the head by the woman, and then punched and kicked by the two guys. I managed to knock the woman and one of the guys to the floor and the other ran off.
Luckily the Police arrived and all was recorded on CCTV.
It went to court, and the woman was given a twlve month suspended sentence, both of the guys were given fines . I was advised by the court that only reasonable force can be used in defending oneself.
All three of these scumbags had previous for, supplying, using, theft all in connection with drugs. Oh by the way they were all adults !!!!

[Feisty]

Exactly Purdey and it is this sort of behaviour that decent people have had enough of. We live in a mamby pamby state that ignores victims of crime and attempts half-heartedly to re-habilitate these people. They welcome prison sentences as that gives them a chance to have acupuncture sessions free of charge, their rotten teeth replaced free of charge, regular methodone and then when they are due to be released grants of several hundred pounds to buy a wardrobe of new clothing.

[purdey]

I have no time for these people. I feel no compassion, and I deplore the British publics patience with them. Yet again we have Amy Winehouse using tax payers money to get her to hospital, here is a woman who has abused her body for years and expects some sympathy for the way she behaves, sorry she is a bloody disgrace..