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Cypriots Protest At The Turkish Embassy Washington DC

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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:01 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:VP I'll give you your safe guard. Get on boat to Turkey and live their the rest of your life and let the true cypriots live in peace.

As if the EU would alow the GC's to do anything to the TC's.

Stop your crap. Unite the Island Turkish settlers and army piss off back to turkey and everyone move on.


Why dont you get on a boat to Greece, Im not going anywhere and you will have to learn that we have just as much right to be here as you do.
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Postby lovernomore » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:VP I'll give you your safe guard. Get on boat to Turkey and live their the rest of your life and let the true cypriots live in peace.

[color=darkblue]As if the EU would alow the GC's to do anything to the TC's.[/color]

Stop your crap. Unite the Island Turkish settlers and army piss off back to turkey and everyone move on.


Why dont you get on a boat to Greece, Im not going anywhere and you will have to learn that we have just as much right to be here as you do.


:shock: :shock: They would make very good observers, just like UN. And even there reports cant be trsuted. Please live in real worldn not fantassy.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:14 pm

All that these demonstrations in front of Turkey's Washington Embassy prove is that they emphasise the differences between the two sides. The news release describing it (the first entry on this thread) frankly does sound rather biased. Greek and Greek Cypriot extremists of the time do have their share of blood on their hands as well, and - imho - given the chance, they would gladly add to what they already have. Until the ligitimate rights of the Turkish Cypriot people on the island are properly addressed by the Greek Cypriots, I will still support partition as the only way to preserve peace on the island of Cyprus.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:02 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:All that these demonstrations in front of Turkey's Washington Embassy prove is that they emphasise the differences between the two sides. The news release describing it (the first entry on this thread) frankly does sound rather biased. Greek and Greek Cypriot extremists of the time do have their share of blood on their hands as well, and - imho - given the chance, they would gladly add to what they already have. Until the ligitimate rights of the Turkish Cypriot people on the island are properly addressed by the Greek Cypriots, I will still support partition as the only way to preserve peace on the island of Cyprus.


What a load of nonsensical drivel!

Another plonker, in the Sewerpoint tradition, crawls out of the woodwork to justify partition so that his/her friends and relatives can hang on to the spoils and treasures of the Foul Turkish Piss Invasion.

Someone who goes to the mind boggling extreme of describing a small peaceful demonstration as biased. :lol: and implying that it's organised by "extremists". What a sparkler this Expat is - all demonstrations are biased! Go and organise an unbiased, impartial demonstration fooool ! Goodness, where do they get them from? :roll: "Extremists" cos they don't agree with Turkish Expansionism ? :roll:

Usual nonsense about "blood on their hands" - where was this fooooool in 74 when his/her nice friends in the Turkish Army destroyed 6,000 Cypriots and made 200,000 homeless? . Thousands of the members of this Forum know this undeniable truth yet these plankers ExPainintheBum and his/her nice friends Sewerpoint and Zenda try so unsuccessfully to justify the Foul Turkish Occupation. What a bunch of Plankers who fool no one except their poor selves. Pity them or condemn them?

Life-jacket, Sewerpoint ?
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:20 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:All that these demonstrations in front of Turkey's Washington Embassy prove is that they emphasise the differences between the two sides. The news release describing it (the first entry on this thread) frankly does sound rather biased. Greek and Greek Cypriot extremists of the time do have their share of blood on their hands as well, and - imho - given the chance, they would gladly add to what they already have. Until the ligitimate rights of the Turkish Cypriot people on the island are properly addressed by the Greek Cypriots, I will still support partition as the only way to preserve peace on the island of Cyprus.


What a load of nonsensical drivel!

Another plonker, in the Sewerpoint tradition, crawls out of the woodwork to justify partition so that his/her friends and relatives can hang on to the spoils and treasures of the Foul Turkish Piss Invasion.

Someone who goes to the mind boggling extreme of describing a small peaceful demonstration as biased. :lol: and implying that it's organised by "extremists". What a sparkler this Expat is - all demonstrations are biased! Go and organise an unbiased, impartial demonstration fooool ! Goodness, where do they get them from? :roll: "Extremists" cos they don't agree with Turkish Expansionism ? :roll:

Usual nonsense about "blood on their hands" - where was this fooooool in 74 when his/her nice friends in the Turkish Army destroyed 6,000 Cypriots and made 200,000 homeless? . Thousands of the members of this Forum know this undeniable truth yet these plankers ExPainintheBum and his/her nice friends Sewerpoint and Zenda try so unsuccessfully to justify the Foul Turkish Occupation. What a bunch of Plankers who fool no one except their poor selves. Pity them or condemn them?



Life-jacket, Sewerpoint ?


Our friend expatkiwi includes Rauf Denktash as a close personal friend....what do you expect from someone that befriends psychotic fanatics?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:52 am

Our friend expatkiwi includes Rauf Denktash as a close personal friend....what do you expect from someone that befriends psychotic fanatics?


Like folk who befriend people like Tassos Papadopoulos, or perhaps Nicos Sampson...?

Let's put things into perspective here. I have had a correspondence relationship with Mr. Denktas. I have never met him, but I have enjoyed communicating with him. He presents me his viewpoint and answers questions that I ask him. That aside, I have met the TRNC representative to Los Angeles (Mr. Mustafagolu), and the previous TRNC representative to Washington DC (Mr. Avci). What they all have said to me makes sense: That Greek Cypriots had no intention to treat Turkish Cypriots on an equal basis, that efforts were made to eliminate the Turkish Cypriot presence, and that in the end, Turkey intervened. These were reactions, not instigations. If you're looking to blame anyone for the problems on Cyprus, then blame the Enosists, and Anti-Turkish paramilitaries first.
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Postby Big Al » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:37 am

TSK HERE TO STAY!!!!
you want the turkish soldiers out of cyprus, pick up a gun and fire the first shot, otherwise shut the f*&k up!!
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:25 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Our friend expatkiwi includes Rauf Denktash as a close personal friend....what do you expect from someone that befriends psychotic fanatics?


Like folk who befriend people like Tassos Papadopoulos, or perhaps Nicos Sampson...?

Let's put things into perspective here. I have had a correspondence relationship with Mr. Denktas. I have never met him, but I have enjoyed communicating with him. He presents me his viewpoint and answers questions that I ask him. That aside, I have met the TRNC representative to Los Angeles (Mr. Mustafagolu), and the previous TRNC representative to Washington DC (Mr. Avci). What they all have said to me makes sense: That Greek Cypriots had no intention to treat Turkish Cypriots on an equal basis, that efforts were made to eliminate the Turkish Cypriot presence, and that in the end, Turkey intervened. These were reactions, not instigations. If you're looking to blame anyone for the problems on Cyprus, then blame the Enosists, and Anti-Turkish paramilitaries first.

As a G/C who , along with the overwhelming majority of Cypriots , some 80% , who supported ENOSIS as the end objective of the liberation struggle , I see absolutely nothing wrong in supporting a position that the majority of Cypriots supported. Let me say , as I have said many times before , that supporting ENOSIS was a natural disposition given that we never in our history had the freedom to choose our own destiny. I DO NOT NOW AND NEITHER DOES THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF G/Cs SUPPORT ENOSIS.
You appear to be utterly blind in recognising that 80% of CYPRIOTS HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DEMAND ENOSIS. We had no other motivational spirit but the spirit of ENOSIS. Now we have , we are an independent nation , at least part of our island is , we are a full European member and we are prosperous which is more that one can say about the occupied by Turkey part of Cyprus. The entire world recognises the ROC as the ONLY legitimate authority in Cyprus.
Given the fact that we are now perhaps closer to a solution than ever before its about time that the stupidity, in political terms , that Turkey is exhibiting in her insistence that the ROC is not recognised by her ONLY - BUT WHAT DOES ONE EXPECT FROM A NATION THAT IS DEBATING ENDLESLY THE WEARING OR NOT OF A SCARF !!- and begin to accept that apart from Turkey there are more than 200 nations on this planet or does she perhaps also beleive that just as on Turk is worth 1000 non Turks so does one Turkish nation worth all others ??
As Turkey struggles internally with her own inadequacies , her own ludicrous identity crises then perhaps she ought to realize that she will never be allowed to remain on European ground for ever. As for Mr Plonker BigAl with his bravado talk let him be aware that it is his type that have been the cause of the Cypriot conflict , the fanatics and irresponsible G/Cs and T/Cs with their faces embedded deep up the arses of their respective motherlands. Let these NON CYPRIOTS realise that this island with a history of 10 thousand years belongs to the true Cypriots . They can of course assimilate totaly with their motherlands , easy and cheap just a one way ticket out of this island , my country not theirs.
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Postby Big Al » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:32 am

miltiades wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Our friend expatkiwi includes Rauf Denktash as a close personal friend....what do you expect from someone that befriends psychotic fanatics?


Like folk who befriend people like Tassos Papadopoulos, or perhaps Nicos Sampson...?

Let's put things into perspective here. I have had a correspondence relationship with Mr. Denktas. I have never met him, but I have enjoyed communicating with him. He presents me his viewpoint and answers questions that I ask him. That aside, I have met the TRNC representative to Los Angeles (Mr. Mustafagolu), and the previous TRNC representative to Washington DC (Mr. Avci). What they all have said to me makes sense: That Greek Cypriots had no intention to treat Turkish Cypriots on an equal basis, that efforts were made to eliminate the Turkish Cypriot presence, and that in the end, Turkey intervened. These were reactions, not instigations. If you're looking to blame anyone for the problems on Cyprus, then blame the Enosists, and Anti-Turkish paramilitaries first.

As a G/C who , along with the overwhelming majority of Cypriots , some 80% , who supported ENOSIS as the end objective of the liberation struggle , I see absolutely nothing wrong in supporting a position that the majority of Cypriots supported. Let me say , as I have said many times before , that supporting ENOSIS was a natural disposition given that we never in our history had the freedom to choose our own destiny. I DO NOT NOW AND NEITHER DOES THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF G/Cs SUPPORT ENOSIS.
You appear to be utterly blind in recognising that 80% of CYPRIOTS HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DEMAND ENOSIS. We had no other motivational spirit but the spirit of ENOSIS. Now we have , we are an independent nation , at least part of our island is , we are a full European member and we are prosperous which is more that one can say about the occupied by Turkey part of Cyprus. The entire world recognises the ROC as the ONLY legitimate authority in Cyprus.
Given the fact that we are now perhaps closer to a solution than ever before its about time that the stupidity, in political terms , that Turkey is exhibiting in her insistence that the ROC is not recognised by her ONLY - BUT WHAT DOES ONE EXPECT FROM A NATION THAT IS DEBATING ENDLESLY THE WEARING OR NOT OF A SCARF !!- and begin to accept that apart from Turkey there are more than 200 nations on this planet or does she perhaps also beleive that just as on Turk is worth 1000 non Turks so does one Turkish nation worth all others ??
As Turkey struggles internally with her own inadequacies , her own ludicrous identity crises then perhaps she ought to realize that she will never be allowed to remain on European ground for ever. As for Mr Plonker BigAl with his bravado talk let him be aware that it is his type that have been the cause of the Cypriot conflict , the fanatics and irresponsible G/Cs and T/Cs with their faces embedded deep up the arses of their respective motherlands. Let these NON CYPRIOTS realise that this island with a history of 10 thousand years belongs to the true Cypriots . They can of course assimilate totaly with their motherlands , easy and cheap just a one way ticket out of this island , my country not theirs.


Take it easy old man, you're telling us that you supported Enosis because at the time you had a natural disposition to it, let me tell you now old man, i, along with thousands of other TC's do not want to live with GC's, be governed by them or have anything to do with them. We would rather become an island belonging to the Republic of Turkey....lets just call it our "natural disposition".
By supporting Enosis you supported the murder of TC civilians and now you want us to live with you??? wake up old man
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Postby Agios Ionas » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:14 am

Big Al wrote:you want the turkish soldiers out of cyprus, pick up a gun and fire the first shot, otherwise shut the f*&k up!!


This is a barbarian showing us his true face. Violence is the only language these people can speak and understand.

You're a Turkish Nikos Sampson wannabe. Denktaş and his cronies did a good job brainwashing you. Your hatred for anything Greek knows no boundaries.

People like you are more of a threat to the TC's living in Cyprus than the GC's ever will be.

You know what? You're feeding the crocodile (Turkey) hoping it will eat you last. And it probably will... eat you last. But still it will eat you. There will be no genuine TC's left in Cyprus in another 34 years. And if there are they will undoubtedly be second grade citizens, much like the Kurds. The mainland Turks are already your masters and perhaps those of you who are Kemalist enough can score some points and a nice job with the government.

In a reunited Cyprus, a full fledged member of the EU, you would indeed be a minority. But a minority with rights. Just as a Kurd can join the Social Democrats in Sweden and then become a minister because he/she was voted for you can join or create a party which consist of both GC's and TC's. Just as a black woman born in Burundi can be elected the minister for Integration and Gender Equality in Sweden a TC can be elected a president in a future reunited Cyprus where ethnicity and religion matters less than political views and the will to do good for Cyprus and all Cypriots.

That's real democracy for you. Nothing like the pseudo-democracy being practiced in Turkey where the military generals can override anything they don't like. As you live in Australia you should know what true democracy means. Are you having a good life over there? Why don't you wish for your TC compatriots in Cyprus to have the very same opportunities like yourself?

A partition of Cyprus will mean that TC's will remain under the mercy of Turkey's self-serving generals and anti-democratic elites. Is that what you want? Really?
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