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[Maynard23]

3. The British Bases are an obstacle to solving the Cyprus problem eh? As I recall, thye were an 'obstacle' that stopped the GCs losing a lot more real estate in 74. If the base was not there, you probably would have lost Larnaca, then god only knows what after that. The bases are now a small obstacle compared to the strong views of both TC & GCs. How about you start find a solution and stop blaming everyone but yourselves.

British Cartographers were busy in Cyprus years before the actual invasion by the Turks, coupled with their simultaneous interest in the demographics of the villages in the Northern areas of the island, it is very easy to see that the 'obstacle' which you mention was also scrutinized before the interested political powers sanctioned the invasion.

If that be not the case, why indeed was not more territory lost to the Turk ?, I can certainly smell a rat, together with the information now freely available, I am certain many others can.

[vaughanwilliams]

You ever get the feeling you're talking to yourself?

Do you have any feeling as to how much I care?

My only objective is for people to read the material and for Britain to play a role in the island's security needs. If Britain is unable to do this, then the SBA presence needs to be questioned.

I'm not sure exactly what security needs you are refering to, that relate strictly to Cyprus and nowhere else. I'm sure any potential external threats to Cyprus would be made known to you by Britain asap and in full. Any intelligence gathered about other countries by SBA surveillance is strictly, as always, on a need-to-know basis, and, frankly, you don't.
I suspect that you may feel that because Britain is not warning you about whatever you think/dream the "Barbaric Turks" are getting up to in the North, is just Britain keeping you deliberately in the dark.
Did it ever occour to you that maybe Britain is playing a role in your islands security needs, and that, at the moment, you haven't got any?

[eracles]

You ever get the feeling you're talking to yourself?

Do you have any feeling as to how much I care?

My only objective is for people to read the material and for Britain to play a role in the island's security needs. If Britain is unable to do this, then the SBA presence needs to be questioned.

I'm not sure exactly what security needs you are refering to, that relate strictly to Cyprus and nowhere else. I'm sure any potential external threats to Cyprus would be made known to you by Britain asap and in full. Any intelligence gathered about other countries by SBA surveillance is strictly, as always, on a need-to-know basis, and, frankly, you don't.
I suspect that you may feel that because Britain is not warning you about whatever you think/dream the "Barbaric Turks" are getting up to in the North, is just Britain keeping you deliberately in the dark.
Did it ever occour to you that maybe Britain is playing a role in your islands security needs, and that, at the moment, you haven't got any?

vaughanwilliams, i have to laugh. If you honestly believe Britain to be sincere in any way then you're more deluded than I thought.
Mind you, you've convinced yourself that living on stolen land is OK so I shouldn't be surprised.
Britain will release intelligence when it's to Britain's advantage, no other time.

[vaughanwilliams]

Hi Eracles,

Or should I call you Mr. Mind Reader? - How do you know what I have convinced myself of?

You should know that ALL, without exception, and including your own, intelligence communities ONLY release knowledge on a strict need to know basis, and then only to third parties who are involved and who can be trusted.
Britain is a founder member of NATO and as such has spent the last 60 years surveilling current and ex-Warsaw Pact countries, from bases all over the world, including Cyprus.
Your own governement has a fully paid up communist for a President.
You don't seriously expect us to share too much with him, do you?

[BC Numismatics]

Vaughan,
Great Britain does maintain very strong ties with the Cypriot Government (which is the only legal government of the whole island outside the 2 Sovereign Base Areas),irrespective of what party the President of Cyprus belongs to.As the President is a Commie,that's his business only.

The idea of a 'T.R.N.C.' is a load of bullcrap! I'd rather watch 'Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares' than choose to believe the Turkish propaganda that is spouted off here.

Aidan.

[vaughanwilliams]

Hi Aidan,

Perhaps you'd like to try convincing Eracles about the ties between UK and RoC.
Being a Commie might be the Presidents own choice, but it's certainly not just his business as far as others might be concerned.

I'm not quite sure I understand the point you are trying to make, by drifting off-subject and going on about the TRNC etc.......? or is this just you having a quick, irrelevant rant?,

[BC Numismatics]

Vaughan,
Cyprus (which includes the so-called 'T.R.N.C.') is a British Commonwealth member state,as is Great Britain.That is what both countries have in common,apart from being member states of the European Union.

Aidan.