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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:29 pm

humanist wrote:I agree with Nikitas above, I think the best solution is 18% - 82% partition and finish this mockery. I personally do not trust the Turks after 2 years on this forum I have come to undertsand very clearly that they have more committment to Turkey than Cyprus and best let them go on their Merry way. But of course Turks being Turks 18% is not enuff.


Lets have an independent committee evaluate all claims and accept the outcome, what do you think?
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Postby humanist » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:31 pm

which claims are you referring too VP? sorry am not sure I have not kept up to date with Cyprus forum
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:36 pm

humanist wrote:which claims are you referring too VP? sorry am not sure I have not kept up to date with Cyprus forum


Besides individual claims who say their land was taken from them by deception there is the bigger claim of Evkaf land especially in Famagusta. An independent body would once and for all settle all disputes and the % will then have to be accepted by both sides.
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Postby humanist » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:43 pm

No I am not prepared to accept an independent committee to define that your portion of population is 18% of the total Cypriot population you take it that and lets call it quits.

If your leader does not trust the GC's and wants Turkey to have a hold on Cyprus then division is beeter than unification. Lets end it so that we can all move forward. Talat appears to take a step forawrd ten steps back. Personnally I do not wish to be represented by a government with Talat as a member.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:which claims are you referring too VP? sorry am not sure I have not kept up to date with Cyprus forum


Besides individual claims who say their land was taken from them by deception there is the bigger claim of Evkaf land especially in Famagusta. An independent body would once and for all settle all disputes and the % will then have to be accepted by both sides.


As I told you before VP, unless you can prove any wrong doings by anyone, it is a waste of time. If people sold their land at less than the going rate at the time, it is water under the bridge now. Ignorance is no defence to claim land sold to others 50+ years ago, or else everyone will want to re-open their sales transactions. If individuals were truly threatened to be killed unless they have signed away their land, is another story, but all likelihood, all these people are more than likely dead, and if still alive, what is their claim and can they prove it. If they can, then by all means, make it up to them...............but how.???
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:00 pm

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humanist wrote:which claims are you referring too VP? sorry am not sure I have not kept up to date with Cyprus forum


Besides individual claims who say their land was taken from them by deception there is the bigger claim of Evkaf land especially in Famagusta. An independent body would once and for all settle all disputes and the % will then have to be accepted by both sides.


As I told you before VP, unless you can prove any wrong doings by anyone, it is a waste of time. If people sold their land at less than the going rate at the time, it is water under the bridge now. Ignorance is no defence to claim land sold to others 50+ years ago, or else everyone will want to re-open their sales transactions. If individuals were truly threatened to be killed unless they have signed away their land, is another story, but all likelihood, all these people are more than likely dead, and if still alive, what is their claim and can they prove it. If they can, then by all means, make it up to them...............but how.???


It will be the job of an independent committee to assess claims if no grounds are found then of course they will be dismissed but Im sure you will suprised at what will come to light, why do you think in all negotiaitons TCs have been given 25-29%?
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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:09 pm

Does "Evkaf" have a connection to the Turkish regime of 1571-1878 ?
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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humanist wrote:which claims are you referring too VP? sorry am not sure I have not kept up to date with Cyprus forum


Besides individual claims who say their land was taken from them by deception there is the bigger claim of Evkaf land especially in Famagusta. An independent body would once and for all settle all disputes and the % will then have to be accepted by both sides.


As I told you before VP, unless you can prove any wrong doings by anyone, it is a waste of time. If people sold their land at less than the going rate at the time, it is water under the bridge now. Ignorance is no defence to claim land sold to others 50+ years ago, or else everyone will want to re-open their sales transactions. If individuals were truly threatened to be killed unless they have signed away their land, is another story, but all likelihood, all these people are more than likely dead, and if still alive, what is their claim and can they prove it. If they can, then by all means, make it up to them...............but how.???


It will be the job of an independent committee to assess claims if no grounds are found then of course they will be dismissed but Im sure you will suprised at what will come to light, why do you think in all negotiaitons TCs have been given 25-29%?


I don't know who gave anyone anything as far as land goes. It that's the case, 10% of the north should be returned back to the GC's tomorrow, pronto.!! :lol: :lol:

Seriously, if it's already determined, then lets see the evidence of wrong doings, because that's the only way justification can be made to have "given" the TC's 25-29%. So who, who and when was it determined that wrongs were done to the TC's 50+ years ago regarding land "stolen" from them. If it has already been examined by independent individuals, then lets see the results and no point wasting time doing it again now.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:02 am

There has never been an independent evaluation, thats why Im suggesting just that then we can agree the % split once and for all, neither side may contest the findings. Would you GCs agree to this?
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