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[Nikitas]

Still cannot figure why the TC culture is so undevalued by Turkey. Is it envy because these people with a funny accent manage to do things as well if not better than the mainlanders?

[BirKibrisli]

To cut to the chase: I met a relative recently in Sydney who is a primary school teacher in the trnc...I asked her one simple question,"What percentage of the kids in your class are Turkish (settlers' kids) and what percentage TC kids??? Her answer: 75% settlers kids...Given that she teaches in Morphou (Guzelyurt),and given that the radio would be higher in Nicosia,I'd say it is Game Set and Match for the end of TC culture in Cyprus within 25 years,unless a solution is found now which will unite the island,and remove most of the settlers...

Most TC Children attend Private schools or Universities, so those figures are not a true reflection.

Since when are there Private Primary schools in the trnc???

Thanks for the big WELCOME,Nikitas...I missed you too...

[halil]

To cut to the chase: I met a relative recently in Sydney who is a primary school teacher in the trnc...I asked her one simple question,"What percentage of the kids in your class are Turkish (settlers' kids) and what percentage TC kids??? Her answer: 75% settlers kids...Given that she teaches in Morphou (Guzelyurt),and given that the radio would be higher in Nicosia,I'd say it is Game Set and Match for the end of TC culture in Cyprus within 25 years,unless a solution is found now which will unite the island,and remove most of the settlers...

Most TC Children attend Private schools or Universities, so those figures are not a true reflection.

Since when are there Private Primary schools in the trnc???

Thanks for the big WELCOME,Nikitas...I missed you too...

lot's of them Birkibrisli almost all our family or friends goes to private schools .

some of them.
Girne American
DAÜ
Yakındoğu
İnternational kibris
levent

i will let you know how many students they have .

they start from nursery school ,primary ,collage than university alo they can do master and degree at same schools .
also i will get you their web pages for you than u can have your own chance to asked them.

they collects the kids from your home and drops them back again .

goverment schools are only half day but these ones opens up to night as well .u don't have to worry where is the your child or what he does .

only settlers kids goes to goverment schools . Teacher unions never tells why parents are ending there kids to private schools . also those teachers gives private lessones at their homes too .

[BirKibrisli]

To cut to the chase: I met a relative recently in Sydney who is a primary school teacher in the trnc...I asked her one simple question,"What percentage of the kids in your class are Turkish (settlers' kids) and what percentage TC kids??? Her answer: 75% settlers kids...Given that she teaches in Morphou (Guzelyurt),and given that the radio would be higher in Nicosia,I'd say it is Game Set and Match for the end of TC culture in Cyprus within 25 years,unless a solution is found now which will unite the island,and remove most of the settlers...

Most TC Children attend Private schools or Universities, so those figures are not a true reflection.

Since when are there Private Primary schools in the trnc???

Thanks for the big WELCOME,Nikitas...I missed you too...

lot's of them Birkibrisli almost all our family or friends goes to private schools .

some of them.
Girne American
DAÜ
Yakındoğu
İnternational kibris
levent

i will let you know how many students they have .

they start from nursery school ,primary ,collage than university alo they can do master and degree at same schools .
also i will get you their web pages for you than u can have your own chance to asked them.

they collects the kids from your home and drops them back again .

goverment schools are only half day but these ones opens up to night as well .u don't have to worry where is the your child or what he does .

only settlers kids goes to goverment schools . Teacher unions never tells why parents are ending there kids to private schools . also those teachers gives private lessones at their homes too .

Thank you ,Halil...Now please can you tell me a few simple statistics...First:How many government schools are there(primary level),and what is the total number of students attending???
Second: How many private schools are there and total number of students...

I am also wondering the reason for the apartheid???? Does this mean settlers' kids and TC kids never mix at school??? And don't you think this has social and cultural implications for the long run?????

[iceman]

Bir
The latest research on the subject was done by the teachers union and the private schools also have teachers member to the union.
Besides,lets be honest...what percentage of the TC population can afford to send their kids to private primary schools at $2000-$3000 a year?
The bitter truth is...we are being swarmed by the settlers in our own country..
This is also very apparent with the shops on the high streets....for example,at least 8 out of 10 shops in Kyrenia are run by these people....same with restaurants...

[Nikitas]

Wonder when the alarm bells will ring on BOTH sides for the settler problem.

Conventional thinking goes like this: GCs are afraid of the settlers because of a possible conflict with them in the future. Wise people should be much more afraid of a clash between TCs and settlers because then the situation will be chaotic. And those that think let them eat each other are not thinking at all.

A partial step towards dealing with the problem would be to copy the US system of overseas voting. And for that to happen in a numerically meaningful way both sides must cooperate since overseas TCs often hold RoC passports. And these passport holders must be allowed to vote in any referendum regarding the solution. These people might live abroad but they are stakeholders in Cyprus, much more so than settlers.

[humanist]

Bir
The latest research on the subject was done by the teachers union and the private schools also have teachers member to the union.
Besides,lets be honest...what percentage of the TC population can afford to send their kids to private primary schools at $2000-$3000 a year?
The bitter truth is...we are being swarmed by the settlers in our own country..
This is also very apparent with the shops on the high streets....for example,at least 8 out of 10 shops in Kyrenia are run by these people....same with restaurants...

This is precisely what my TC friend who took me to Apostolos Andreas and Xeros also told me as we stopped in Gyrne. He was also a little hostile to the settler restauranteurs along the waterfont.

My uncle who lives in Australia also told me that his TC friend who lives in the occupied area told him that it is true. He was very resentful of the fact that settlers get free accommodation, ned I mention at the expense of GC refugees.

[iceman]

A partial step towards dealing with the problem would be to copy the US system of overseas voting. And for that to happen in a numerically meaningful way both sides must cooperate since overseas TCs often hold RoC passports. And these passport holders must be allowed to vote in any referendum regarding the solution. These people might live abroad but they are stakeholders in Cyprus, much more so than settlers.

Nikitas
You are making a very bad mistake by thinking overseas TC's voting will be for the advantage of TC's living in Cyprus..The last thing concerned TC's on the island want is for the overseas TC's given this voting right..
For some reason,a great majority of the overseas TC's think they are more patriotic than the ones living in Cyprus..
If the overseas TC's were given a voting right in the 2004 referendum,do you know that they would have voted %99 NO?
For them North Cyprus is a safe holiday destination & retirement heaven cleansed of the evil Greeks and if they could,they would vote to keep it that way.
Until they come to Cyprus and spend more than a few weeks (living,not holidaying on the beach or poolside) they do not realise the situation..
Since they have their British passports in their pocket and £££ accounts in British banks they couldn't care less of the problems normal TC's have to go through due to the status quo..

[Nikitas]

Iceman,

Enlightening fact regarding the overseas TCs. I thought they would be like GCs of UK who are mostly leftist.

We have a problem and seeing a few months down the road the problem will make itself clearer as we try to define who votes in the upcoming referendum.

[BirKibrisli]

Iceman,

Enlightening fact regarding the overseas TCs. I thought they would be like GCs of UK who are mostly leftist.

We have a problem and seeing a few months down the road the problem will make itself clearer as we try to define who votes in the upcoming referendum.

Unfortunately Iceman is correct about the TCs in the diaspora,Nikitas...
Most are stuck with the mentality they had when they left Cyprus ( largely 60s and 70s) or what they have been told by their parents...

What I find sad is that those GCs who are aware of the settler problem want to use it politically to pressure the TCs to ask Turkey to leave...(Time is working against you...your culture ,identity will be wiped out if you dont remove the settlers asap!! kind of mentality)....The truth is given the circumstances there is little the TCs (those still remaining in Cyprus) can do about Turkey's presence...Not because they love the Turks but because they fear the GCs more...So ironic that the only people who can help TCs survive are the GCs...But they are more interested in revenge (serves you right!!!type of revenge) then making an effort to truly comprehend the distress and helplessness of their compatriots in the North...Given the famous Cypriot pride the TCs would rather die than ask for help from the GCs,and that is what is happening...They are dying a slow death...

Even the whale calf stranded in Sydney harbour this week had more humanity shown him...He was put down mercifully to stop him from starving to death..