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[Cem]

The transformation of the Turk ... from Mongol, to Ottoman, to Turks, to TC, to "European" ... they are masters of mimicry ... they suck the life-blood of all around them. "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"

Granny,

I had seen this film above long time ago starring Kevin McCarthy and directed by Don Siegel who also created "Dirty Harry" series that are still unequalled in my view. Despite of its being a bit out of date, still, one of my favorites.

But granny, let us remind the viewers the plot in case they are not familiar with:

The plot of Invasion of the Body Snatchers:

Dr Miles Bennell returns his small town practice to find several of his patients suffering the paranoid delusion that their friends or relatives are impostors. He is initially skeptical, especially when the alleged dopplegängers are able to answer detailed questions about their victim's lives, but he is eventually persuaded that something odd has happened and determines to find out what is causing this phenomenon. This film can be seen as a paranoid 1950s warning against those Damn Commies or, conversely, as a metaphor for the tyranny of McCarthyism (or the totalitarian system of Your Choice) and has a pro- and epilogue that was forced upon Siegel by the studio to lighten the tone.

source:http://www.imdb.com

I have boldened and and underlined the sentence that would be most relevant.....to you..
Just replace the commies with us turks and "tyranny" with "TRNC "(don't they sound the same??) and bingo !!
BTW, a word that best describes you is sticking out like a sore thumb.
Guess, which one ??

[Cem]

The transformation of the Turk ... from Mongol, to Ottoman, to Turks, to TC, to "European" ... they are masters of mimicry ... they suck the life-blood of all around them. "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"

Granny,

I had seen this film above long time ago starring Kevin McCarthy and directed by Don Siegel who also created "Dirty Harry" series that are still unequalled in my view. Despite of its being a bit out of date, still, one of my favorites.

But granny, let us remind the viewers the plot in case they are not familiar with:

The plot of Invasion of the Body Snatchers:

Dr Miles Bennell returns his small town practice to find several of his patients suffering the paranoid delusion that their friends or relatives are impostors. He is initially skeptical, especially when the alleged dopplegängers are able to answer detailed questions about their victim's lives, but he is eventually persuaded that something odd has happened and determines to find out what is causing this phenomenon. This film can be seen as a paranoid 1950s warning against those Damn Commies or, conversely, as a metaphor for the tyranny of McCarthyism (or the totalitarian system of Your Choice) and has a pro- and epilogue that was forced upon Siegel by the studio to lighten the tone.

source:http://www.imdb.com

I have boldened and and underlined the sentence that would be most relevant.....to you..
Just replace the commies with us turks and "tyranny" with "TRNC "(don't they sound the same??) and bingo !!
BTW, a word that best describes you is sticking out like a sore thumb.
Guess, which one ??

As I must have accidentally erased the name of the owner of the quoted statement at the top of previous post, her name is Oracle.

[Oracle]

Highly incompetent. You must be a Turk!

... and you have no idea to what I was referring (but culture is not a Turk's strong point as this thread has demonstrated).

Your literal film critique is irrelevant

But bash away .... self-delusional Turk, who has revealed all his leanings so easily ... some of your other utterances suggest you are way older than I am ... but carry on with your pretence .. I for one am not ageist

[Cem]

Highly incompetent. You must be a Turk! :

In case you might want to know, I am half turk, half tc ( and I have made this explicit in my previous post here)
So.... half turk and half tc, my dear Stella by the Starlight, must be the best of two worlds...for you
...given that you had stated there are TWO groups of people you hate so that you could not comply with the poll "who hates who"... (started by a complete jerk)

... and you have no idea to what I was referring (but culture is not a Turk's strong point as this thread has demonstrated

).

No, untermenshen (subhuman) as we are, culture must be light years away from us, the despicable scum that we are, Turks...

As a matter of fact, the culture stuff belongs exclusively to Greeks, who have mass-murdered each other during the Greek civil war in the aftermath of WW2.

Your literal film critique is irrelevant

If you had really understood the film, the "body snatching process" starts only after if people fall asleep. When Gizikis, Yorgacis, Nikos Sampson offered the GC community the "Enosis" dream, they, in fact, strived to sedate the greek cypriots.

Whereas, if they had had any wisdom, they would have repelled that motive earlier, since "Enosis" with Greece would have come true through a natural process by way of common E.U membership..as is now...

No need to go through all these hardships and blood spilling for both GCs and TCs.

But bash away .... self-delusional Turk, who has revealed all his leanings so easily ... some of your other utterances suggest you are way older than I am ... but carry on with your pretence .. I for one am not ageist :wink

But, you have taken the liberty to "age" your fellow GCs -Militiades and Bananiot- by aging their "cranium" earlier, my dear Stella by the Starlight.
Moreover, you added me to that list of "going seniles" my dear..
"Highly incompetent", oooh, what shall I do now ?
Should I commit suicide right away or prostrate myself in front of her and kiss her feet and ask for her forgiveness?

[Oracle]

No Cem dear ... The film was a metaphor for the invasiveness of the Turks who adopt / steal the cultures of others.

Kindly see my answer to CopperLine on the other thread, and swap CopperLine for Cem ... and bingo, there's your answer to the above ..... as I really cannot be bothered with either of you two who think the virtual people (yourselves or me) are more important to "analyse" and dwell upon, than the politics / evidence.

[Nikitas]

Cem said:

"Whereas, if they had had any wisdom, they would have repelled that motive earlier, since "Enosis" with Greece would have come true through a natural process by way of common E.U membership..as is now... "

Which raises, for me anyhow if not for others, what you mean by Enosis. The common membership in the EU has in fact pushed Greece and the RoC further apart in terms of underlining the differences. This is obvious in the manner each nation interprets and applies EU policies and programmes.

For Greeks Enosis means taking over Cyprus and converting it to district of Greece, something which has not happened and in the EU is unlikely to ever happen. For GCs it meant something totally different, a union betwen equals, and that partly explains the clash with Greeks in 1974. There is no way the Greeks would accept any part of Hellenism as equal to the Athenocentric culture they have established in the 20th century.

Ironically, the TC side, which uses the word Enosis to denote something close to a nightmare, has undergone the Enosis process (becoming a district of another country) almost entirely. And to keep to the thread theme, this TC view of Enosis has affected TC culture deeply since the 50s.

[CopperLine]

For Greeks Enosis means taking over Cyprus and converting it to district of Greece, something which has not happened and in the EU is unlikely to ever happen. For GCs it meant something totally different, a union betwen equals, and that partly explains the clash with Greeks in 1974. There is no way the Greeks would accept any part of Hellenism as equal to the Athenocentric culture they have established in the 20th century.

Ironically, the TC side, which uses the word Enosis to denote something close to a nightmare, has undergone the Enosis process (becoming a district of another country) almost entirely. And to keep to the thread theme, this TC view of Enosis has affected TC culture deeply since the 50s.

As Nikitas wrote here is another grand historical irony, and it points to a broader political question : is the primary ambition of a negotiated settlement to resolve and remedy the ills of the past - whether substantial or fictitious - or is the primary ambition of a negotiated settlement to make a liveable life for the circumstances of today. These two ambitions, each undoubtedly worthy and honourable, might be mutually incompatible ?

[Nikitas]

Copperline,

Good question you posed above.

GCs seem resigned to a solution which will remove the mainland Turkish threat. The phrase "survival of hellenism" used by almost all politicians of the GC side has a real meaning, unlike most phrases used by politicians.

My priblem is that I cannot tell what would be the equivalent solution for the TCs. One which guarantees their survival on the island. After reading (in translation) TC commentators it is clear that there is a continuous reduction in TC numbers in Cyprus.

Going for a historical move, one that would resolve and remedy the ills of the past is just too demanding for two communities as conservative as the GCs and TCs. We are conventional thinkers trying to find a solution "in the box".

[humanist]

Are we (some GC's) more concerned about the dramatic reduction of TC numbers in Cyprus? than most TC's are. Why do some of us like myself and Nikitas concerned about the emerging fact? Do we have the right to be concerned?

[CopperLine]

I don't want to open an old can of worms, but when people say that TC numbers in Cyprus are decreasing (relatively or absolutely ?) which figures/sources are being referred to ?