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[humanist]

halil thank you for the pictures .... it really is ashame we all hate each other because when i see those pictures all I see its Cypriot nothing Greek about it and certainly nothing Turkish ..... its all Cypriot to me, thanx again.

[iceman]

halil thank you for the pictures .... it really is ashame we all hate each other because when i see those pictures all I see its Cypriot nothing Greek about it and certainly nothing Turkish ..... its all Cypriot to me, thanx again.

speak for yourself Andreas...I don't hate.

[halil]

halil thank you for the pictures .... it really is ashame we all hate each other because when i see those pictures all I see its Cypriot nothing Greek about it and certainly nothing Turkish ..... its all Cypriot to me, thanx again.

speak for yourself Andreas...I don't hate.

Yes ,Andreas speak for yourself ,there is no such a word in my book .

called hate .....

there is a culture differences , we have to except it .Culture differences can be even found between cities as well .

still i am working on the TC's culture .... wait to read it .....

[Nikitas]

It is obvious that a community living in relative isolation will develop a unique culture.

There is is a plainly visible and easily perceived DIFFERENCE from either mainland culture and this has given the excuse for closed minded chauvinists to come to the island and try to "purify" us. THe GCs escaped this fate at a very high cost. THe TCs fell prey to the full force of the Turkification drive that even discouraged local dances and changed place names.

It is ironic that 35 years, and a generation later, the TCs turn to the banished elements of their culture in an attempt to ensure their survival. The question is if there are now enough TCs on the island to make such an attempt meaningful. The published works on TC culture can be seen as part of this attempt, but on the other hand they might be the last tries to preserve evidence of a dying culture, something like the attempts of scientists to take photos of the last remaining specimens so they can display them at some cultural museum of the future.

TC intellectuals are in an unenviable sate. They are present and conscious during their own autopsy and some are actively taking part. And the question to these people must be "after what what almost happened to the GCs, how could you not see it coming?"

[Nikitas]

I am keeping this separate related though it is to the above post.

The saddest manifestation of this disappearing TC culture was Zan's post about his self consciousness and embarassment of his TC accent IN NICOSIA!

[turkkan]

I only read the first 8 pages of this thread so i dont know if what i'm going to say was brought up in an earlier post in this thread, but there seems to be this recurring theme of a turkish culture vs TC culture which is a very odd debate as there is no unifying turkish culture or traditions. Turkey has 81 provinces geographically and in each one of those provinces there are people who although identify themselves as turks have very different customs and traditions. If you look at the way people dance for example and their folk songs from each of those areas in turkey you will see its incredibily different. Another example is people in turkey also look very different depending on where they come from, you cant simply say that your friends who are from 'turkey look very different from your TC friends' as someone said so earlier in this thread and try and use that as proof of us being different to mainland turks. Go to the west of turkey and you will find most people from there look a lot like us , go to the east or black sea and you will find they look quite different and are darker. The way turkish is spoken is also very different, the dialects within turkey are vast, in some regions the difference in the way turkish is spoken is FAR greater than the difference between lets say how someone from istanbul would speak and a TC. Its obviously natural that given that we live on an island and have done so for just under 500 years now that we will also have our own dialect and traditions that are not shared in other parts of turkey. Overall though, we are a turkish community that lives in Cyprus, by far our biggest and most notable difference with mainland turkey as a whole is that we are no way near as religious as they are.

[Nikitas]

turkkan,

the same holds true for most nations, there are different, often very different, local cultures. The question that has arisen since 1974 is if there is a drive to wipe out the elements that distinguish TC culture and if this drive is succeeding.

[humanist]

okay iceman and halil I cannot tell you how to feel. however I would like to pose this question if there is no hate on both parts and perhaps not you or I as individuals then how come we are heading for destrction as a nation and as peoples? How come we are not living together in harmony?

cheers
Andreas

[humanist]

Nikitas

The saddest manifestation of this disappearing TC culture was Zan's post about his self consciousness and embarassment of his TC accent IN NICOSIA

Really it happened to Zan? Of all people. It is really strange because last year when I visited cyprus and crossed over to the occupied area, I felt more comfortable in Lefkosia walking on my own than I did in Kyrenia and further north.

Sorry to hear about that Zan. It must feel weird.

[Oracle]

The answer is ... NO!