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[turkkan]

In this forum the greeks(and some turkish cypriots) often try to distinguish between turks from turkey and turks from cyprus. Now my question is directed towards the turkish cypriots, although greeks can answer if they wish (so dont get a heart attack alexandros). WHat exactly differentiates them and us? A lot of us go study in universities in turkey, we dont seem to behave any differently then them, in the army did you ever have trouble with turks from turkey or difficulty fittinng in? Now ofcourse you do not tend to mix with those of different economic levels, and those who come from south-east turkey, are quite poor, you have to be to just suddenly decide to change your home. But what if they were middle class, wouldnt that make a huge difference in terms of mixing? I think these differences are clearly exaggerated, with perhaps the exception of religion and this depends what part of turkey those turks you mix with come from. At essence there is no difference between us and them.

Now lets move on and discuss what we have in common with the greek cypriots, perhaps a lot, but anyway near what we have in common with turkey? Im sure someone will have the time to compile a short list that goes straight to the point. Tnx

[salonica]

I can tell you one thing

there are huge differences between GC and Greeks. that I know for sure

[brother]

There is huge difference between tc and turks but 30+ years of living with them, watching their t.v stations we are being led to believe that we are the same, but truth be we are not.

[insan]

Can you spot the differnces between a GC villager and a GC townsman? Yes, you can. Then you can spot the difference between a Turkish villager and a TC villager or a TC townsman. You can also spot lots of differences between a TC villager and a TC townsman. Moreover you can spot lots of differences between older generation of TCs and new generation of TCs. There are huge differences between foreign national TCs and native TCs.

In Turkey, if you have sufficient knowledge; you can spot the differnces between an Aegean villager and Eastern anatolian villager or Black see villager. In Cyprus you can't spot mcuh differences between villagers of different villages; be it a TC, GC or a settler villager because Cyprus is a small place.

However you can't spot much differences between the townsmen of any country.

In North, most of the settlers are villagers. Most of the older generation of settler women wear a head scarf like older generation of Cypriot women wear.

Illiterate people, fascists, ultra-nationalists, conservatists, religious fanatics, bigots, mafia, self-interest groups, organized crime groups etc. exist in all societies at around almost similar percentages.

Please broaden your mind and try to look at the events from a wider perspective.

[Alexandros Lordos]

so dont get a heart attack alexandros

I am not sure I understand the reason why you referred to me, but anyway, from my surveys, it seems that TCs and settlers on the whole tend to hold similar views on most subjects - though they vote in a very different way.

I am not sure however, if "deep down", as brother says, the differences are more pronounced.

[Alexandros Lordos]

so dont get a heart attack alexandros

I am not sure I understand the reason why you referred to me.

Ah yes, I remember now! The other thread in which you called all Turkish Cypriots to march away into the sunset ...

[turkkan]

'There is huge difference between tc and turks but 30+ years of living with them, watching their t.v stations we are being led to believe that we are the same, but truth be we are not.'

FIrstly brother, no one is leading you to beleive anything, you choose to beleive what you want. As for the 'truth' which you seem to think you know, perhaps you can share it with us.


'In Cyprus you can't spot mcuh differences between villagers of different villages; be it a TC, GC or a settler villager because Cyprus is a small place. '

Insan,it is one thing distinguishing between people and another to socially connect. Your are going to have to provide a bit more than your above analysis for this quesiton im afraid, you would feel more comfortable in a greek village than a turkish village? Second, you have not answered the question at all, what differentiates us from the turks in turkey? And moving on are the differences greater than our differences with the greeks in the south?

'Illiterate people, fascists, ultra-nationalists, conservatists, religious fanatics, bigots, mafia, self-interest groups, organized crime groups etc. exist in all societies at around almost similar percentages.

Please broaden your mind and try to look at the events from a wider perspective.'

I do not need you to tell me to broaden my mind insan, im assuming with your final sentence you are implying that I am one of the above , if that is so then you are the one that clearly needs a broadening of mind. my question was not offensive in the least to anyone, and has a direct implication with the general topic of this forum,it is also something that is constantly brought up on this forum. tnx.

[brother]

FIrstly brother, no one is leading you to beleive anything, you choose to beleive what you want. As for the 'truth' which you seem to think you know, perhaps you can share it with us.

Turkkan why is it every post you make you come across as an angry and fustrated person.
I put forward my opinion which you obviously do not share, if you feel the need to be sarcastic go look in the mirror and talk to yourself but with me either speak and ask properly or do not at all.

Also if you have not figured out how to use the quote system then please ask and i will show you.

[turkkan]

Put your mind to rest brother, i am not frustrated or angry. I just wanted a answer to my question that was worthwhile reading. Your implication that you know the 'truth' without going on to substantitate what turth you are actually talking about, i personally consider is a very poor answer. So perhaps if you wish to continue and tell me the truth about how we are different than the average turk, so i can finally open my eyes, i would then be greatful.

You also mention how i 'obviously' do not agree with your opinion. I do not beleive that I have stated such a thing anywhere. All i did was ask a question.

[brother]

Before 1974 we barely understood each other as our turkish was/is still spoken differently its only now that it is coming closer to theirs due to all the turkish satelite channels we watch also our eating habits, customs, thoughts etc. the list is long and exstensive, but if you see yourself the same as them then either you are not a tc or you are engaged/married to a turk, also among our society we look upon the mainland settlers with dis-taste.