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[Plato]

This is a question that has been bugging me. If it was clear to GCs that it was a pro-Turkish plan, and effectively guaranteed partition of the island, why did Greece support it? Is it really true that Greece sees the Cyprus problem as a unwanted headache that it just wants rid of? No matter what the solution? Is it true that Greece really does not care about Cyprus? What explanations are there for this. Your views would be appreciated.

[zan]

The "RoC" would not have got into the EU if this deception had not been played out to its fullest extent. It is easy to support something you do not want if you know your people will vote against it.....

[Plato]

Interesting point Zan.

Do you really believe that Greece was playing such a game, or is it just you being cynical?

[zan]

Interesting point Zan.

Do you really believe that Greece was playing such a game, or is it just you being cynical?

Whilst Greece and the GC admin were saying that they were in favour of the AP, they were giving out T-Shirts that said "OXI" to the plan. Kofi Annan was sooooo pissed off when he found out about the deception and the double crossing. Facts!!!!!

[Oracle]

This is a question that has been bugging me. If it was clear to GCs that it was a pro-Turkish plan, and effectively guaranteed partition of the island, why did Greece support it? Is it really true that Greece sees the Cyprus problem as a unwanted headache that it just wants rid of? No matter what the solution? Is it true that Greece really does not care about Cyprus? What explanations are there for this. Your views would be appreciated.

Greece isn't a smothering sort of "mother". It knows when to back off since the eyes of the world are upon it with regards to how it supports Cyprus.

So it allows Cyprus all the independence it needs; even not supporting its interests within the EU when other countries can take up the mantle for Cyprus. Such as opposition to Turkey's accession plans. Greece allows France and Germany to oppose this in its place.

But I have no doubt when push comes to shove, Greece will be there for Cyprus ... staunch allies to the end.

The Cypriot people must not allow Turkey to divide them from this enviable alliance with Greece (and EU).

Turkey would love nothing more than to sever Cyprus from all outside friendships like Greece and the EU and get it alone.

That's why I think we should also move further away from the UN as the solution providing body .... it has failed us for too long. It is too "distant" from Cyprus.

Instead, allow Cyprus closer ties with Greece and EU.

[zan]

This is a question that has been bugging me. If it was clear to GCs that it was a pro-Turkish plan, and effectively guaranteed partition of the island, why did Greece support it? Is it really true that Greece sees the Cyprus problem as a unwanted headache that it just wants rid of? No matter what the solution? Is it true that Greece really does not care about Cyprus? What explanations are there for this. Your views would be appreciated.

Greece isn't a smothering sort of "mother". It knows when to back off since the eyes of the world are upon it with regards to how it supports Cyprus.

So it allows Cyprus all the independence it needs; even not supporting its interests within the EU when other countries can take up the mantle for Cyprus. Such as opposition to Turkey's accession plans. Greece allows France and Germany to oppose this in its place.

But I have no doubt when push comes to shove, Greece will be there for Cyprus ... staunch allies to the end.

The Cypriot people must not allow Turkey to divide them from this enviable alliance with Greece (and EU).

Turkey would love nothing more than to sever Cyprus from all outside friendships like Greece and the EU and get it alone.

That's why I think we should also move further away from the UN as the solution providing body .... it has failed us for too long. It is too "distant" from Cyprus.

Instead, allow Cyprus closer ties with Greece and EU.

The UN has given you the ENOSIS you wanted...Well......63% of the island anyway........What more proof than a Greek like you living on my island could I want!!!!

[Oracle]

This is a question that has been bugging me. If it was clear to GCs that it was a pro-Turkish plan, and effectively guaranteed partition of the island, why did Greece support it? Is it really true that Greece sees the Cyprus problem as a unwanted headache that it just wants rid of? No matter what the solution? Is it true that Greece really does not care about Cyprus? What explanations are there for this. Your views would be appreciated.

Greece isn't a smothering sort of "mother". It knows when to back off since the eyes of the world are upon it with regards to how it supports Cyprus.

So it allows Cyprus all the independence it needs; even not supporting its interests within the EU when other countries can take up the mantle for Cyprus. Such as opposition to Turkey's accession plans. Greece allows France and Germany to oppose this in its place.

But I have no doubt when push comes to shove, Greece will be there for Cyprus ... staunch allies to the end.

The Cypriot people must not allow Turkey to divide them from this enviable alliance with Greece (and EU).

Turkey would love nothing more than to sever Cyprus from all outside friendships like Greece and the EU and get it alone.

That's why I think we should also move further away from the UN as the solution providing body .... it has failed us for too long. It is too "distant" from Cyprus.

Instead, allow Cyprus closer ties with Greece and EU.

The UN has given you the ENOSIS you wanted...Well......63% of the island anyway........What more proof than a Greek like you living on my island could I want!!!!

Sorry Zan ... I do not get your gripe ... I was born on Cyprus and I am like most natives ...... a Hellenic Cypriot

[zan]

This is a question that has been bugging me. If it was clear to GCs that it was a pro-Turkish plan, and effectively guaranteed partition of the island, why did Greece support it? Is it really true that Greece sees the Cyprus problem as a unwanted headache that it just wants rid of? No matter what the solution? Is it true that Greece really does not care about Cyprus? What explanations are there for this. Your views would be appreciated.

Greece isn't a smothering sort of "mother". It knows when to back off since the eyes of the world are upon it with regards to how it supports Cyprus.

So it allows Cyprus all the independence it needs; even not supporting its interests within the EU when other countries can take up the mantle for Cyprus. Such as opposition to Turkey's accession plans. Greece allows France and Germany to oppose this in its place.

But I have no doubt when push comes to shove, Greece will be there for Cyprus ... staunch allies to the end.

The Cypriot people must not allow Turkey to divide them from this enviable alliance with Greece (and EU).

Turkey would love nothing more than to sever Cyprus from all outside friendships like Greece and the EU and get it alone.

That's why I think we should also move further away from the UN as the solution providing body .... it has failed us for too long. It is too "distant" from Cyprus.

Instead, allow Cyprus closer ties with Greece and EU.

The UN has given you the ENOSIS you wanted...Well......63% of the island anyway........What more proof than a Greek like you living on my island could I want!!!!

Sorry Zan ... I do not get your gripe ... I was born on Cyprus and I am like most natives ...... a Hellenic Cypriot

Makes no difference...When the day comes that the TC and GC Cypriots make the decision who to deport then you will be on the first boat out.

[Sotos]

Greece didn't support the Annan plan. Simitis supported it but Simitis was not the PM when the final version came out. Greece DID NOT support the Annan 5.

[DT.]

Karamanlis begrudgingly and after delaying a decision till the very last second mumbled that he supported it. I remember his face, he looked like he wanted the world to swallow him up.