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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:08 am

zan wrote:If your idea of "True democracy" is trying to starve a people into submission and take away their rights only to replace them with what you think is right and make them a minority in their own country with less rights then they had before then carry on Stalin....This man is not for turning. One community one vote is just as democratic as proved in the EU voting system with veto intact. Seems you are selective in your ideas on democracy in favour of Greek rule in Cyprus......You have the choice already.......The TRNC or the "RoC".......Freedom of choice...Isnt that democratic... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Day before the Coup by the Junta was not possible for an "intervention", but the day after, miracles happened. Was it a miracle or was it an opportunity with an agreed "set up" to bring Turkey into Cyprus when they came. Enough already, because you are asking me to believe in miracles that man has created and not nature.!!


You are yet to grasp the differences between a country and a club (EU) where the rules are different. The EU is not a majority rule kind of a democracy. It is only unanimous decision kind of a system and has nothing to do with Democracy. But then again, you have once told me not to ask you anything about Democracy, because you did not know what Democracy was.! :lol:

Every country has a minority groups. It does not mean they do not have equal rights. Look at Switzerland. 69% Swiss Germans, 20% Swiss French, 10% Swiss Italians and 1% Swiss Romansch. They have a True Democracy with majority rule on a One Man One Vote without any Racist and Undemocratic Veto Power held by any of the 3 "minority" groups, because no one is seen as a majority or a minority group in Switzerland.

The blacks have been in North America longer than the TC's in Cyprus. Numerically the blacks are a minority and despite not having had too many rights to the majority of their time in the "new world", they are equal citizens and now are about to elect the first Black President of the United States, despite only representing 10% of the US population.

There is only one kind of True Democracy. All the rest is what your fellow Muslim cousins practice all over the world, which is far short of anything resembling a Democracy, let alone a True Democracy. We don't want in Cyprus what all the other so called Democratic Muslim states do in their country. You have the choice to go and join them if you like, and that would be you Democratic Choice. In Cyprus, there is only ONE state and it is the RoC, therefore I cannot choose another, because it does not exists.

A mirage also gives the illusion that there is water in the distance when one is dying of thirst, but when they finally get there, it is just more sand. The same can be said about the "trnc". All it is, just a illegal state built on stolen land and no amount of wishful thinking that will make it a real state for you. Well Zan, it is not, or else the only thing you'll end up drinking will be sand and not water. Only a fool can't tell the difference between sand and water Zan.!!
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Postby zan » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:24 am

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:If your idea of "True democracy" is trying to starve a people into submission and take away their rights only to replace them with what you think is right and make them a minority in their own country with less rights then they had before then carry on Stalin....This man is not for turning. One community one vote is just as democratic as proved in the EU voting system with veto intact. Seems you are selective in your ideas on democracy in favour of Greek rule in Cyprus......You have the choice already.......The TRNC or the "RoC".......Freedom of choice...Isnt that democratic... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Day before the Coup by the Junta was not possible for an "intervention", but the day after, miracles happened. Was it a miracle or was it an opportunity with an agreed "set up" to bring Turkey into Cyprus when they came. Enough already, because you are asking me to believe in miracles that man has created and not nature.!!


You are yet to grasp the differences between a country and a club (EU) where the rules are different. The EU is not a majority rule kind of a democracy. It is only unanimous decision kind of a system and has nothing to do with Democracy. But then again, you have once told me not to ask you anything about Democracy, because you did not know what Democracy was.! :lol:

Every country has a minority groups. It does not mean they do not have equal rights. Look at Switzerland. 69% Swiss Germans, 20% Swiss French, 10% Swiss Italians and 1% Swiss Romansch. They have a True Democracy with majority rule on a One Man One Vote without any Racist and Undemocratic Veto Power held by any of the 3 "minority" groups, because no one is seen as a majority or a minority group in Switzerland.

The blacks have been in North America longer than the TC's in Cyprus. Numerically the blacks are a minority and despite not having had too many rights to the majority of their time in the "new world", they are equal citizens and now are about to elect the first Black President of the United States, despite only representing 10% of the US population.

There is only one kind of True Democracy. All the rest is what your fellow Muslim cousins practice all over the world, which is far short of anything resembling a Democracy, let alone a True Democracy. We don't want in Cyprus what all the other so called Democratic Muslim states do in their country. You have the choice to go and join them if you like, and that would be you Democratic Choice. In Cyprus, there is only ONE state and it is the RoC, therefore I cannot choose another, because it does not exists.

A mirage also gives the illusion that there is water in the distance when one is dying of thirst, but when they finally get there, it is just more sand. The same can be said about the "trnc". All it is, just a illegal state built on stolen land and no amount of wishful thinking that will make it a real state for you. Well Zan, it is not, or else the only thing you'll end up drinking will be sand and not water. Only a fool can't tell the difference between sand and water Zan.!!


Did you not understand what I said when Turkey was asking the other powers to intervene???FFS :roll: :roll:

Operations take time to put into practice and that included diplomacy. Your childish attempts are getting tiresome but that is the Greek tactic that you have acquired. Same goes for this democracy and club crap....

I will thank you for pointing to my muslim cousins in the manner that you did though because it confirms your status as a false Turk....What are you Kiks....Its about time you came clean!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:52 am

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:If your idea of "True democracy" is trying to starve a people into submission and take away their rights only to replace them with what you think is right and make them a minority in their own country with less rights then they had before then carry on Stalin....This man is not for turning. One community one vote is just as democratic as proved in the EU voting system with veto intact. Seems you are selective in your ideas on democracy in favour of Greek rule in Cyprus......You have the choice already.......The TRNC or the "RoC".......Freedom of choice...Isnt that democratic... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Day before the Coup by the Junta was not possible for an "intervention", but the day after, miracles happened. Was it a miracle or was it an opportunity with an agreed "set up" to bring Turkey into Cyprus when they came. Enough already, because you are asking me to believe in miracles that man has created and not nature.!!


You are yet to grasp the differences between a country and a club (EU) where the rules are different. The EU is not a majority rule kind of a democracy. It is only unanimous decision kind of a system and has nothing to do with Democracy. But then again, you have once told me not to ask you anything about Democracy, because you did not know what Democracy was.! :lol:

Every country has a minority groups. It does not mean they do not have equal rights. Look at Switzerland. 69% Swiss Germans, 20% Swiss French, 10% Swiss Italians and 1% Swiss Romansch. They have a True Democracy with majority rule on a One Man One Vote without any Racist and Undemocratic Veto Power held by any of the 3 "minority" groups, because no one is seen as a majority or a minority group in Switzerland.

The blacks have been in North America longer than the TC's in Cyprus. Numerically the blacks are a minority and despite not having had too many rights to the majority of their time in the "new world", they are equal citizens and now are about to elect the first Black President of the United States, despite only representing 10% of the US population.

There is only one kind of True Democracy. All the rest is what your fellow Muslim cousins practice all over the world, which is far short of anything resembling a Democracy, let alone a True Democracy. We don't want in Cyprus what all the other so called Democratic Muslim states do in their country. You have the choice to go and join them if you like, and that would be you Democratic Choice. In Cyprus, there is only ONE state and it is the RoC, therefore I cannot choose another, because it does not exists.

A mirage also gives the illusion that there is water in the distance when one is dying of thirst, but when they finally get there, it is just more sand. The same can be said about the "trnc". All it is, just a illegal state built on stolen land and no amount of wishful thinking that will make it a real state for you. Well Zan, it is not, or else the only thing you'll end up drinking will be sand and not water. Only a fool can't tell the difference between sand and water Zan.!!


Did you not understand what I said when Turkey was asking the other powers to intervene???FFS :roll: :roll:

Operations take time to put into practice and that included diplomacy. Your childish attempts are getting tiresome but that is the Greek tactic that you have acquired. Same goes for this democracy and club crap....

I will thank you for pointing to my muslim cousins in the manner that you did though because it confirms your status as a false Turk....What are you Kiks....Its about time you came clean!!!


I have made it very clear many times, that I'm a non believer of all religions, but at the same time, I respect all religions and those who wish to follow them, hence the fact, I find all places of worship very interesting and visit them at every opportunity I find regardless of denomination. I hope you do not forget again Zan, that I'm a non believer in any religion so not to get you too excited with your attempted "gotcha" routine.!!
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