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[Kikapu]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

[zan]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

[bill cobbett]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

A belated and very half-hearted welcome back to Zan the Fibber on his return.

Still a-fibbing after all these weeks I see.

1974 saw 6000 dead and PR-disaster-Zan tells us that Turkey came to save Cypriots from murderers.

Zan the fibber at his best. Classic.

[zan]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

A belated and very half-hearted welcome back to Zan the Fibber on his return.

Still a-fibbing after all these weeks I see.

1974 saw 6000 dead and PR-disaster-Zan tells us that Turkey came to save Cypriots from murderers.

Zan the fibber at his best. Classic.

Mister Billy Bobbit I presume........You guys seem to learn nothing.......6000 killed by the Turks hey Mr Oracle......Please tell me how many the Greek coupist killed...Any idea!!!

[bill cobbett]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

A belated and very half-hearted welcome back to Zan the Fibber on his return.

Still a-fibbing after all these weeks I see.

1974 saw 6000 dead and PR-disaster-Zan tells us that Turkey came to save Cypriots from murderers.

Zan the fibber at his best. Classic.

Mister Billy Bobbit I presume........You guys seem to learn nothing.......6000 killed by the Turks hey Mr Oracle......Please tell me how many the Greek coupist killed...Any idea!!!

On this sad day would Zan the Fibber like to express some regret for the Cypriots killed by the Turkish Army during its Piss Operation?

[zan]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

A belated and very half-hearted welcome back to Zan the Fibber on his return.

Still a-fibbing after all these weeks I see.

1974 saw 6000 dead and PR-disaster-Zan tells us that Turkey came to save Cypriots from murderers.

Zan the fibber at his best. Classic.

Mister Billy Bobbit I presume........You guys seem to learn nothing.......6000 killed by the Turks hey Mr Oracle......Please tell me how many the Greek coupist killed...Any idea!!!

On this sad day would Zan the Fibber like to express some regret for the Cypriots killed by the Turkish Army during its Piss Operation?

Have done and will do....It is you and the likes of you that will not acknowledge those killed by your own and apologies to them and us. Thousands killed by Greeks and thousands more on their list to kill. Have some shame man

[Kikapu]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

Hand the country back to whom???

The same government Turkey accepted as a legitimate government in 74 just before the coup. Just when did Turkey realise, that she no longer recognised the government she came to protect and restore, considering the fact, that it was the same government since 1963 when the problems started, or are you saying now, Turkey did not recognise the RoC government since 1963, then the question comes to mind, why did they wait until 74 to come and help the TC's, and if so, then the whole thing looks like a set up job with the coup to divide the island between Greece and Turkey, since the safety of the TC's were no concern to Turkey between 63 and 74. So make up your mind Zan, as to what was more important to Turkey, the safety of the TC's between 63-74, or get a piece of the island after 74, because she had no problem allowing the RoC government to remain in place before 74, but somehow, it could not restore it back to it's place, after the coup in 74 according to you..

[zan]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

Hand the country back to whom???

The same government Turkey accepted as a legitimate government in 74 just before the coup. Just when did Turkey realise, that she no longer recognised the government she came to protect and restore, considering the fact, that it was the same government since 1963 when the problems started, or are you saying now, Turkey did not recognise the RoC government since 1963, then the question comes to mind, why did they wait until 74 to come and help the TC's, and if so, then the whole thing looks like a set up job with the coup to divide the island between Greece and Turkey, since the safety of the TC's were no concern to Turkey between 63 and 74. So make up your mind Zan, as to what was more important to Turkey, the safety of the TC's between 63-74, or get a piece of the island after 74, because she had no problem allowing the RoC government to remain in place before 74, but somehow, it could not restore it back to it's place, after the coup in 74 according to you..

It did not recognise the government of the "RoC" before then my friend because it was the Cyprus Republic...For starters....

Have you read anything on Cyprus or are you just grasping at straws as usual. Why did Turkey not come in 63/64.........The USA would not let her. The UK would not let her. She was broke and did not have the power or the ships. She trusted the UN to make the difference....A zillion reasons that you have not bothered to find out about because it contradicts your Greek propaganda books. Did you read what the USAs response was when Turkey started the intervention in 1974....? Well read up old boy and burn that book you are so fond of. If you do...You will find that Makarios himself said that the Zurich agreement was dead and that that agreement was what made the government of Cyprus and not the cock and bull story that you think makes the rightful government of Cyprus. The Greeks have not been the government of the whole of Cyprus and never will. Happy reading Einstein...

[bill cobbett]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

A belated and very half-hearted welcome back to Zan the Fibber on his return.

Still a-fibbing after all these weeks I see.

1974 saw 6000 dead and PR-disaster-Zan tells us that Turkey came to save Cypriots from murderers.

Zan the fibber at his best. Classic.

Mister Billy Bobbit I presume........You guys seem to learn nothing.......6000 killed by the Turks hey Mr Oracle......Please tell me how many the Greek coupist killed...Any idea!!!

On this sad day would Zan the Fibber like to express some regret for the Cypriots killed by the Turkish Army during its Piss Operation?

Have done and will do....It is you and the likes of you that will not acknowledge those killed by your own and apologies to them and us. Thousands killed by Greeks and thousands more on their list to kill. Have some shame man

Have done too, Pinnochio Zon, many times. There's no hit list. I know it and I suspect you know it too.

[zan]

All of the above would have had a meaning Zan, if Turkey in fact restored the RoC government after the Coup by the Junta, as was agreed under the Guarantor Power agreement and withdrew after it was safe to do so, withing few months. Without going into any other details where other actions of Turkey in Cyprus were all contrary to her agreement as a guarantor, makes the above statement even more objectionable. Had Turkey lived up to her responsibilities, I believe even the GC's would be throwing a party to Turkey along with the TC's in saving their island from the coupist, but instead, Turkey violated every charter she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots. So the question then needs to be asked is, which guarantor power violated their own oath greater than other guarantor powers to provide protection to Cyprus and to all Cypriots.!!

There were problems before the coup and it was us that were suffering while the Gcs stole our country and we still have problems today so Turkey has every right to be here until we agree a solution.

Sure there were problems, but what does that has to do with anything as to why Turkey violated every agreement, more than the other two, that she signed to protect Cyprus and all Cypriots as a guarantor. If Turkey was not ready to be guarantor 100%, she should have just decline the job altogether. But at least you are not contesting the fact, that Turkey did violate all her agreements she signed to do, and then you wonder why the GC's do not want Turkey to play any role as a guarantor in the future.

Turkey came and saved the TCs and GCs from Greek murderers who had complete disregard for the constitution and any other agreement and you find Turkey at fault.......Still clutching at straws my friend.........Answer the question....Hand the country back to whom???

A belated and very half-hearted welcome back to Zan the Fibber on his return.

Still a-fibbing after all these weeks I see.

1974 saw 6000 dead and PR-disaster-Zan tells us that Turkey came to save Cypriots from murderers.

Zan the fibber at his best. Classic.

Mister Billy Bobbit I presume........You guys seem to learn nothing.......6000 killed by the Turks hey Mr Oracle......Please tell me how many the Greek coupist killed...Any idea!!!

On this sad day would Zan the Fibber like to express some regret for the Cypriots killed by the Turkish Army during its Piss Operation?

Have done and will do....It is you and the likes of you that will not acknowledge those killed by your own and apologies to them and us. Thousands killed by Greeks and thousands more on their list to kill. Have some shame man

Have done too, Pinnochio Zon, many times. There's no hit list. I know it and I suspect you know it too.

What I know is that the GC friend of mine that I went out with on Friday, said that not only did his father see this list but he was assigned to bury the Makarios supporters or be killed himself.