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[Viewpoint]

Kifeas & salonica you are both living in a utopian dream, really amusing to read your last posts, dream on you have many many years to do so.

[Kifeas]

There are no such terms like GC and TC. There are only greek speaking (gs) Cypriots and turkish speaking (ts) Cypriots.

I don't know where you get this mentality but you can't tell people what they are. You might feel like a Greek speaking Cypriot and that's your right but if I feel like Turkish-Cypriot and if I want to describe myself as such, you have no right to tell me that I'm not. Got that? Good.

Cyprus is one and only one and indivisible. It belongs equally to all its people, the Cypriots. There is only one people in Cyprus, the Cypriots. Among others, there are Greek speaking Cypriots and Turkish speaking Cypriots. There is no Turkish and no Greek Cyprus. Those who do not feel Cypriots and instead they claim to be Greeks or GreekCypriots or Turks or TurkishCypriots can as well live the country because this country belongs only to the Cypriots.

There are no such terms like GC and TC. There are only greek speaking (gs) Cypriots and turkish speaking (ts) Cypriots.

I agree with you Kifaes,

I wish we all see our selves as Cypriots and only Cypriots because we are Cypriots. Many of us, turkish speaking Cypriots, as you righfully mention, agree with your ideas. Do not let anyone intimidate you.

Compatriot TCBananiot, welcome to the forum and thank you very much for your support.
These people in this forum try to convince us that the only Cypriots are the Donkeys. I am sure you know what I mean.
I am glad you agree with me.
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Cyprus is one and only one and indivisible. It belongs equally to all its people, the Cypriots. There is only one people in Cyprus, the Cypriots. Among others, there are Greek speaking Cypriots and Turkish speaking Cypriots. There is no Turkish and no Greek Cyprus. Those who do not feel Cypriots and instead they claim to be Greeks or Greekcypriots or Turks or Turkishcypriots can as well live the country because this country belongs only to the Cypriots. Bi-communals, Bi-sexuals and bi-zonals can all go to live either in Greece or in Turkey.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas & salonica you are both living in a utopian dream, really amusing to read your last posts, dream on you have many many years to do so.

Viewpoint,
Are you a TURK, a TURKcypriot or a turkish speaking CYPRIOT?
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Cyprus is one and only one and indivisible. It belongs equally to all its people, the Cypriots. There is only one people in Cyprus, the Cypriots. Among others, there are Greek speaking Cypriots and Turkish speaking Cypriots. There is no Turkish and no Greek Cyprus. Those who do not feel Cypriots and instead they claim to be Greeks or Greekcypriots or Turks or Turkishcypriots can as well live the country because this country belongs only to the Cypriots. Bi-communals, Bi-sexuals, bi-zonals and bi-partionists must all go to live either in Greece or in Turkey or in the UK or in the U.S.

[garbitsch]

Kifeas, why are you so obsessed with the terms like Turkish, Turkish CYpriot, Cypriot, Turkish speaking Cypriot? You are making us get confused!

[MicAtCyp]

Anyway I believe, if Annan Plan for some reason come
back as it is right now, it probably will not 50% in
north anyway. We know that even the best agreement is as
good as the intentions of the signers. Unfortunately the
southern will be signers of this future agreement lost a
lot of credibility in the eyes of northern will be
signers.

That's exactly the reason any new solution will not be put at referendum. It will just be signed my the leaders and "bitti".

[Saint Jimmy]

That's exactly the reason any new solution will not be put at referendum. It will just be signed my the leaders and "bitti".

Can this be done?
Is there not a provision in the 1960 Constitution that says that it can't be amended or abolished, unless such action is voted for in a popular referendum?

I thought there was...

[erolz]

I wish we all see our selves as Cypriots and only Cypriots because we are Cypriots. Many of us, turkish speaking Cypriots, as you righfully mention, agree with your ideas. Do not let anyone intimidate you.

I agree with this ideals

What I do not agree with is ignoring that the histroy of Cyprus as a nation has been this history of one set of Cypriots (GC) seeking to force their desires on another set (TC) against their will and for that set (TC) resisting this impositon. I also do not agree that with such a history we can simply say tomorrow 'forget GC and TC lets just be Cypriot' and expect all the problems to disapear. That there are GC and TC is not a 'view' imo it is simply a reality born f the fact that we chose such distrinctions, persued distinct objectives and never made any effort (and still do not) make any effort to build a Cypriot nation irrespective of these. For me the idea we can go from A to Z immiedatley and without any regard for historiucal and present reality is just non feasible. If we really want to get to Z we must jointly decided this is the destination (and I fear many on both sides do not want this destionation anyway) and then we must jointly plot a route through B-Y first. Anything else is can not work imo.

[turkcyp]

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