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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:13 pm

There was a recent BBC report , part of a Radio 4 programme (I think)suggesting Macey was involved with shady dealings with the Turks .. who bumped him off ... I will keep looking ...

But here is something:

Macey, indeed, provided the Turkish Cypriots with arms and ammunition, offered them training and, in general, he headed the preparation for an eventual Turkish invasion.
Packard, on the other hand, was working on a different level; that of a friendly conciliator, as the British policy needed the Greek Cypriots to be kept in check, quiet, unarmed, restrained and behaving themselves.

The knowledge of the local languages in these cases was a definite must and the best way to gain the confidence of the people.

According to PRO documents (which refer to a statement made by the then President Archbishop Makarios) Major Macey and his driver were murdered by a ringleader of a gang active in the Famagusta-Larnaca area.

Macey and his driver were accused of spying and working for the Turks.

In another document, it is revealed that two Greek Cypriot informants gave the British authorities information as to the place where the bodies lay.

The informants were helped by the British authorities to take asylum in England and also received the £2,000 reward offered.

Macey was also employed to make visits to Greek and Turkish villages throughout Cyprus (just like Martin Packard) reporting on the state of feeling in the countryside. In other words, both were engaged in collecting intelligence in a manner undetected by the locals and keeping things in check for their superiors.

The Foreign Office also regarded the positioning of British officers within the UN a necessity, in order to be privy to all information received by the UN. " His special experience (Macey’s) enabled him to play a unique role in efforts to maintain peace and save lives through his personal contacts with Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots," it was noted in a report in the PRO files.

The British documents reveal the true ‘unique’ role of T. Macey as a British ‘spy ring leader’ aiding the Turkish Cypriots against the Greek Cypriots.
Martin Packard’s superiors, fearing for his life, days after Macey’s murder, rushed him out of Cyprus via a CIA plane that took him to an American base in Greece.British subversion

As it was correctly stated in the BBC programme, British officers were directly involved in subversive activities on the island: the manufacture of bombs, bombing Turkish properties to blame the Greek Cypriots, espionage and so on.

Their main objective was to de-stabilise Cyprus, bring chaos and confusion and assist the Turks in the execution of their long-term plans.


As Nicos Koshis stated, the British policy was to keep the two communities separated. But with an enlarged hidden agenda.

In February 1964, Archbishop Makarios handed a document to the British High Commissioner regarding those activities.

He referred to the case of Colonel Thursby who, on January 20, 1964, went to the Manager of the Cyprus Asbestos Mines Co Ltd and, under false pretences, demanded to be allowed to collect all the explosives in the stores.

Makarios also wrote to General Gyani (UN force) complaining and listing instances when British troops with the UN contingent did nothing to stop Turks from firing at Greek Cypriots. Marley (mentioned in the programme), Bachelor, Bass (mentioned), Heron, Tyft, Offard and Jones are among those accused of aiding and providing the Turks with arms, ammunition and other military equipment.

Some of those arrested had given sensational information but the Cypriot authorities were totally ignorant of the even more damning information they could have extracted.

But they did not have the chance. The British authorities, who knew full well the extent of the consequences in such a case, quickly arranged for them to be flown out of Cyprus. Marley, who was arrested (as stated in the programme) and gave vital information under interrogation, was tried and condemned to 15 years imprisonment.

However, the British authorities again ‘arranged’ with the then Attorney General (ex Colonial employee) Tornaritis (and not the Cypriot Government) to get him out of for health reasons.

Partition plans

Although Martin Packard refers to George Ball’s statement regarding "their policy being partition," he and the programmers make no mention whatsoever of the policy of the Foreign Office, which is clearly demonstrated in no uncertain terms through the PRO files.

In fact, George Ball was at the time referring to the British plans to which he and his department were privy.

In February, 1964, the Planning Department of the Foreign Office (Packard’s superiors) devised a comprehensive plan named ‘ The Future of Cyprus’ which stated: "It is now clear that any long term solution in Cyprus must involve geographical separation of the Greek and Turkish communities.

"This could of, course, be achieved by wholesale removal of the Turkish community elsewhere. Less drastic alternatives following some redeployment of the population in the island are:

"a Partition so that a predominantly Greek area is united with Greece and a predominantly Turkish area is united with Turkey.

"b Partition so that one or both areas are independent, perhaps with special relationships with Greece and Turkey respectively, or

"c A Federal Constitution, in which the island would be divided into cantons, one or two of which were Turkish.

"It would already be difficult for the Greeks to intervene successfully in Cyprus. The Turks would have completed their intervention before they could prevent it.

"The obvious Greek counter-move would be to invade Turkish Thrace. One way of preventing this would be for a small force drawn from all NATO countries to police the frontier.

"We could make much greater use of United States and British naval power to deter Greek naval assault across the Aegean. The ability of the Greeks to mount an airborne intervention is strictly limited…".

(A month before, in London, where representatives of both communities were summoned for a conference, Rauf Denktash had placed on the table in the presence of Glafcos Clerides, Tassos Papadopoulos, Stella Soulioti and others his and Turkey’s demands i.e. geographical federation...).†

From the masses of the PRO documents released so far, one can build upon the theory that it was in fact the British and not the Americans who thought of, prepared and instigated the Greek Junta takeover in Greece in 1967, in order to achieve their planning objectives over Cyprus.

The Americans were used as and when it suited the British, always retaining a secondary and assisting role to date.

†False accusations

Upon leaving Cyprus, Martin Packard prepared a report, which he handed to his superiors, in which he accused the Greek Cypriots of slaughtering 27 Turkish Cypriots in the Nicosia General Hospital.

His accusations appeared on April 2, 1988 in the ‘Guardian’ newspaper through his friend at the time Chief Editor of the paper Peter Preston, who, in 1964, was also working in Cyprus.

On February 10, 1994 Channel 4 Television showed a documentary called ‘Secret Story – Dead or Alive’ which in a way addressed the drama of the 1,619 missing Greek Cypriots since the brutal Turkish invasion of Cyprus in July 1974.

Martin Packard made an unexpected appearance to say that in 1963/64 he had prepared a report in which he included that: "The largest single element of these missing people were the Turkish Cypriot patients at the General Hospital. Nothing had been heard of any of them. It was assumed that they were being held in custody somewhere. The outcome of my investigation suggested that they had all of them been killed in the General Hospital. They had been removed at night, the bodies from there had been taken out to outlying farms up in the region of Skilloura and out there they had been dismembered and passed through farm dicing machines and they had then been seeded into the ploughed land."

I found these accusations too horrific to be true. Immediately, I wrote to the then Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs David Heathcoat-Amory and demanded to be allowed to view Packard’s report.

As he spoke about this report having definitely not been released, I found Mr Packard’s liberty to disclose such damning secret information, with no evidence at all to substantiate it, extraordinarily questionable.

Five-year fight

I raised the issue that he either had breached the Official Secrets Act as he spoke from knowledge of a report still retained or he spoke in his capacity of a British conciliator with the Department’s permission. Whatever the case, we had a right to see the evidence of what he was so freely accusing us.

My fight with the Foreign Office and other government departments lasted five years (1994-1999) until he was finally ‘ordered’ to close the matter by withdrawing the accusations.

Peter Preston, with an article in the ‘Guardian’ (which was equally guilty and responsible for printing unsubstantiated allegations), on May 3, 1999, wrote that Martin Packard revisited the island and found out that he was given wrong information, no evidence at all, and that in fact no Turkish Cypriot had been harmed.

I wrote an article in Simerini on May 18, 1999 and another one was written by Charalambos Charalambides on May 19, 1999, finally revealing the truth.

Packard was wrong and had no evidence whatsoever for those horrific allegations against us.

The damage, however, to the Greek side was immeasurable. The Turks had used Packard’s allegations to the full and in all international forums, as admitted by Peter Preston.

Packard was obliged to write to Kofi Annan withdrawing the allegations and restoring the truth, which is that no Turkish Cypriot had been killed.

They were all protected under Makarios’s orders.

And that was the result of Packard’s role in Cyprus in 1964 which had nothing to do with petty conflicts over….sheep between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.

†Finally: "The programme assesses the evidence that pro-American elements on the island in 1964 actively conspired to foment inter-communal strife in order to justify the effective partition of the island - a situation that came to pass in 1974", is stated on the BBC 4’s website.

This is totally wrong.

The British documents reveal exactly the opposite. I find it extraordinary after such a broadcast to reach such a ridiculous assumption!

It was not the so called pro-American elements on the island in 1964 who actively conspired to foment inter-communal strife in order to justify the effective partition of the island, but the very British intelligence men - the ‘spy ring’ - as they chose to name them under direct orders of the Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defence.

They were the ones who were aided on the island by their pro-British elements within both communities who in their own way assisted the British and Turkish partitionist policy to gain ground.


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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:42 pm

Lucky Jim ... You asked what the TMT is ... It is an organisation founded in 1957 by Denktaş ....... the Turkish Resistance Organization. I think they are the same as the Grey Wolves who are still liable to kill GCs that cross them :shock:

Anyway :? .... here is a summary of that BBC Radio 4 documentary:



The real truth about British spy ring in Cyprus

FANOULA ARGYROU, a professional researcher, looks at allegations made this week in a BBC Radio programme about a British spy ring operating to support the Turkish Cypriots in 1964 and finds that the truth is even more amazing…THE murky side of Britain’s role in Cyprus was highlighted this week by a BBC Radio 4 programme that claimed a British spy ring cooperated with the Turkish Cypriots during the troubled days of 1964.

The following summary of the documentary was also available on the same day on the BBC 4’s website:

" Ever since the Turkish army invaded and occupied Northern Cyprus in 1974, the partition of the island between ethnic Greeks and Turks has seemed set in stone.

"But the first Green Line, through the capital, was drawn ten years earlier, by a British general (Young) using a green chinagraph pencil that happened to be at hand. Throughout 1964, British troops were on the island, supposedly for peace-keeping. But were they really bringing peace?

"In this programme, Mike Thomson examined new documents that suggest that the real motives of some of the peacekeepers were less than honourable."

The documents reveal the existence of a spy ring of British troops who were materially aiding Turkish insurgents by gun-running and spying on Greek Cypriot military installations.

Although one of the men was caught by the Greek Cypriots, the rest were spirited off the island by the British authorities before the Cypriot police could interrogate them.

The programme also investigated the long-standing mystery of a British army major, who was abducted, presumed murdered, by Greek Cypriot paramilitaries. New documentary evidence uncovered by the programme shows that he, too, was aware of illicit gun-running on behalf of the Turks and that, although the British authorities had good intelligence about the identities of his murderers, they chose not to press the Greek Cypriot authorities to investigate the case.
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Postby Lucky Jim » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:15 pm

WOW what can I say I am astounded we need to take this in. I am so excited Thankyou Oracle. I will reply tommorow after informing the wifes relatives of this .
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:26 pm

Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:
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Postby kurupetos » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:28 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:


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Postby LENA » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:40 pm

kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:


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I agree.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:40 pm

kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:


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Hi Kurupetos, can I tweak your ear?

Talking yesterday of your names etc. As a child we knew a Karabet (possibly Karabedian) an Armenian, who used to live in a shack on the river next to the Nicosia prison. We thought he was a Gypsy, only beause of his lifestyle. His wife and three daughters were our neighbors. One daughter, Annik fell in love with a GC, and then commited suicide. The other daughters and mother then moved to London. Not related are you? :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:44 pm

LENA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:


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I agree.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:



Ofcourse you excepted Lena :lol: :lol:
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Postby LENA » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:46 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
LENA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:


:twisted:


I agree.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:



Ofcourse you excepted Lena :lol: :lol:


Is it the air tonight? Whats wrong with you guys tonight? Deniz take it back please.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:48 pm

LENA wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
LENA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Welcome to the forum Lucky Jim. There are always two sides to the coin. So far you have been greeted by our Greek Cypriot friends. Turkish Cypriots are here too. We are the friendlier type. :lol: :lol:


:twisted:


I agree.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:



Ofcourse you excepted Lena :lol: :lol:


Is it the air tonight? Whats wrong with you guys tonight? Deniz take it back please.



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