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[DT.]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

Zanny boy! Am I glad to see you!

Were you been?

[Oracle]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

I think things got much worse in the 80's and 90's for foreign kids growing up in these estates then they would have been in our era Zan, the 60's and 70's.

I remember the riots and BNP activities (marches, arson, stabbings) forever in the headlines ... but I was safely out of London by then but meeting a much cleverer, more furtive racism.

GC kids would have probably had to face this from more angles than TC kids.

[zan]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

Zanny boy! Am I glad to see you!

Were you been?

Working behind the scenes DT. Thanks for the welcome....

[zan]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

I think things got much worse in the 80's and 90's for foreign kids growing up in these estates then they would have been in our era Zan, the 60's and 70's.

I remember the riots and BNP activities (marches, arson, stabbings) forever in the headlines ... but I was safely out of London by then but meeting a much cleverer, more furtive racism.

GC kids would have probably had to face this from more angles than TC kids.

Thats why I said "In my day"....But I don't know what was worse....Having people move away from where you were sitting on the beaches in the UK or being verbally abused......I suppose the second really.

Why do you think the GCs had it worse than the TCs

[Oracle]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

I think things got much worse in the 80's and 90's for foreign kids growing up in these estates then they would have been in our era Zan, the 60's and 70's.

I remember the riots and BNP activities (marches, arson, stabbings) forever in the headlines ... but I was safely out of London by then but meeting a much cleverer, more furtive racism.

GC kids would have probably had to face this from more angles than TC kids.

Thats why I said "In my day"....But I don't know what was worse....Having people move away from where you were sitting on the beaches in the UK or being verbally abused......I suppose the second really.

Why do you think the GCs had it worse than the TCs

The GCs were discriminated by more than just the British. Their work and study ethos generated envy and resentment from more angles. Also the TC kids were worse to them after 1974 having acquired some sense of superiority. I was picked on by TC girls in the mid 70's some of which were "friends" prior to that.

[zan]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

I think things got much worse in the 80's and 90's for foreign kids growing up in these estates then they would have been in our era Zan, the 60's and 70's.

I remember the riots and BNP activities (marches, arson, stabbings) forever in the headlines ... but I was safely out of London by then but meeting a much cleverer, more furtive racism.

GC kids would have probably had to face this from more angles than TC kids.

Thats why I said "In my day"....But I don't know what was worse....Having people move away from where you were sitting on the beaches in the UK or being verbally abused......I suppose the second really.

Why do you think the GCs had it worse than the TCs

The GCs were discriminated by more than just the British. Their work and study ethos generated envy and resentment from more angles. Also the TC kids were worse to them after 1974 having acquired some sense of superiority. I was picked on by TC girls in the mid 70's some of which were "friends" prior to that.

You take a personal response to your Nazi style promotion of Greeks and use it as an example on how others were treated I suppose that the parents of my GC friends, and there were many, who no longer looked me in the eye when all I cared about was going out and pulling girls is to be discarded as well. Don't forget that I have read some of your work on the Net.......All beginning to make sense now. I used to think that your thinking was open and dynamic but you are giving us a glimpse of an insular and bitter person. Now I can feel sorry for you.

[Oracle]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

I think things got much worse in the 80's and 90's for foreign kids growing up in these estates then they would have been in our era Zan, the 60's and 70's.

I remember the riots and BNP activities (marches, arson, stabbings) forever in the headlines ... but I was safely out of London by then but meeting a much cleverer, more furtive racism.

GC kids would have probably had to face this from more angles than TC kids.

Thats why I said "In my day"....But I don't know what was worse....Having people move away from where you were sitting on the beaches in the UK or being verbally abused......I suppose the second really.

Why do you think the GCs had it worse than the TCs

The GCs were discriminated by more than just the British. Their work and study ethos generated envy and resentment from more angles. Also the TC kids were worse to them after 1974 having acquired some sense of superiority. I was picked on by TC girls in the mid 70's some of which were "friends" prior to that.

You take a personal response to your Nazi style promotion of Greeks and use it as an example on how others were treated I suppose that the parents of my GC friends, and there were many, who no longer looked me in the eye when all I cared about was going out and pulling girls is to be discarded as well. Don't forget that I have read some of your work on the Net.......All beginning to make sense now. I used to think that your thinking was open and dynamic but you are giving us a glimpse of an insular and bitter person. Now I can feel sorry for you.

Why because we are discussing our pasts? I am not bitter because none of this was allowed to thwart me. I carried on regardless, but just was not blind to it. That is not being bitter Zan.

You don't like what you hear because you live in some dystopia where the Turks have do no harm but always portray themselves as victims? ... something you have perfected Zan.

Well there are not many "victims" with the record of UN and Human Rights abuses and violations as those practiced continuously by the Turkish.

[zan]

How old are you Magnus?

I'll say early 30s. You can go ahead and disregard my comments and posts now because I'm not old enough to play big boys' games.

I can always teach you mate so don't be in a hurry to leave...

In my day, the GCs and the TCs stuck together in the main but there were always the Cafe type that gambled and enjoyed fighting. I am afraid that you cannot take what goes on in those council estates and relate it to the rest of the world. I work in them every day and have done for the past 32 years so I know them very well indeed. Although I suffered some abuse as I grew up it was not as bad as you have described.

I think things got much worse in the 80's and 90's for foreign kids growing up in these estates then they would have been in our era Zan, the 60's and 70's.

I remember the riots and BNP activities (marches, arson, stabbings) forever in the headlines ... but I was safely out of London by then but meeting a much cleverer, more furtive racism.

GC kids would have probably had to face this from more angles than TC kids.

Thats why I said "In my day"....But I don't know what was worse....Having people move away from where you were sitting on the beaches in the UK or being verbally abused......I suppose the second really.

Why do you think the GCs had it worse than the TCs

The GCs were discriminated by more than just the British. Their work and study ethos generated envy and resentment from more angles. Also the TC kids were worse to them after 1974 having acquired some sense of superiority. I was picked on by TC girls in the mid 70's some of which were "friends" prior to that.

You take a personal response to your Nazi style promotion of Greeks and use it as an example on how others were treated I suppose that the parents of my GC friends, and there were many, who no longer looked me in the eye when all I cared about was going out and pulling girls is to be discarded as well. Don't forget that I have read some of your work on the Net.......All beginning to make sense now. I used to think that your thinking was open and dynamic but you are giving us a glimpse of an insular and bitter person. Now I can feel sorry for you.

Why because we are discussing our pasts? I am not bitter because none of this was allowed to thwart me. I carried on regardless, but just was not blind to it. That is not being bitter Zan.

You don't like what you hear because you live in some dystopia where the Turks have do no harm but always portray themselves as victims? ... something you have perfected Zan.

Well there are not many "victims" with the record of UN and Human Rights abuses and violations as those practiced continuously by the Turkish.

Victim status is only claimed where it is so Stella but in your insular world you only see what you want to see. What other option did you have other than to carry on with your studies???Pushy parents....Pushy self not wanting to fail. It must have cut deep but it sounds as if you held onto the knife as it was about to be withdrawn. You seem to thrive on pain and you portray the Greeks as the victims but not yourself...You are stronger than that aren't you. You are the intellectual Hellen of Troy that will launch a thousand ships againt...Well everyone that isn't Greek I suppose, but while you are combing your hair and praising your beauty the world turns and leaves you behind in pitiful agony with your tear bladder filled to bursting point. As I said.......I feel sorry for you.

[roseandchan]

when i was at school in the uk. we had both turkish cypriot and greek cypriots in our school. i can honestly say that neither were ever picked on due to being cypriot. nobody ever questioned their nationality. it was always the indian kids who got a hard time.

[Oracle]

when i was at school in the uk. we had both turkish cypriot and greek cypriots in our school. i can honestly say that neither were ever picked on due to being cypriot. nobody ever questioned their nationality. it was always the indian kids who got a hard time.

I was never picked on by the British kids at school. As as I said to Zan (since he asked me to expand ) the only trouble I had at senior school was from a couple of TC girls. One was expelled and the other suspended ... and the rest learnt to be sneakier.

The racism I met later, was also more an excuse for professional envy and had a lot to do with being female as well as "foreign".

On a one to one basis I looked and sounded English, and had no daily problems ... it was only when I mentioned being Greek or they saw my surname that the differences became obvious. Again it was discomfort in case they said something non-PC.

On the whole it was of a level that I think is just part of Human nature and no doubt is the same the whole world over.