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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:21 am

Welcome new member Novus.

Are you planning to take on the Turkish Army for us ?
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Postby Novus » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:03 am

bill cobbett wrote:Welcome new member Novus.

Are you planning to take on the Turkish Army for us ?
Lol, I actually wondered about that.
Just like with how America is with everyone armed (well, about 40% of everyone armed with a firearm in their home actually) and how it would be idiotic to invade and occupy us, I imagine if Cypriots, and not just the military reserves, were well armed, the Turks might think twice about doing it again.

Think if thousands of Greek Cypriots in Farmagusta or Karenya had a quarter the weapons I have each and they stood their ground alongside the military (my knowledge Cypriot history is not detailed, so bear with me) or stayed and took on guerilla warfare with those weapons, then even if there would be a greater loss of life on both sides, the Turks may have realized it is not so easy and may not have stayed.
I understand I am being idealistic, but really, a well armed populace is always a damn good deterrent to invasion or suppression. Just look how well the Iraqi "insurgents" have been kicking our (as in my America's) ass all these years. They couldn't have done it nearly as well without guns already there dispersed among the people.
Look at how Hitler in a huge part was dissuaded from invading Switzerland.

Think about why so many Cyprus reservists are allowed to have fully auto assault rifles or hanguns in their homes right now. It is because a well armed populace is a great detterent, but what I propose is even the non-reservists (that are responsible and law abiding) be allowed to be just as armed thereby an even greater deterrent.

Now if peace for a hundred years is guaranteed and there is no threat of invasion or the possibility of an illegal and oppressive government taking control, then I can see no "defense of the people" need for arms, but looking back at milleniums of history we can see nothing is truly guaranteed in this world when dealing with human society given enough time.
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Postby LENA » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:15 pm

Welcome to the forum Novus.
This thread is just a lovely peaceful thread. Right purdey?
Imagine the guy who knows more about guns around here (pantheman) believes that he needs only the gun between his legs. Then why my dear you use them?

I wonder why men can get so excited with guns and hunting?
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Postby ttoli » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:24 pm

Novus wrote:24"?!!? That sucks. Even the most stringent local law in the US didn't ban over 20" for shotguns.

Doesn't matter too much to me at the moment though because my Remington 870 has I think a 26" barrel, however it has a five round magazine tube. Do you think I could get away with a temporary magazine plug limiting it to three rounds only?
And people wonder why there are so many gun related deaths in the U.S.
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Postby Novus » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:59 pm

LENA wrote:Welcome to the forum Novus.
This thread is just a lovely peaceful thread. Right purdey?
Imagine the guy who knows more about guns around here (pantheman) believes that he needs only the gun between his legs. Then why my dear you use them?

I wonder why men can get so excited with guns and hunting?
I don't know why the appeal about hunting because I don't hunt. I have shot some pests, but it never felt "good".
As far as being excited about guns? Why do people get all excited about antiques, sports teams, celebrities, etc.? All the same thing.
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Postby Novus » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:06 pm

ttoli wrote:
Novus wrote:24"?!!? That sucks. Even the most stringent local law in the US didn't ban over 20" for shotguns.

Doesn't matter too much to me at the moment though because my Remington 870 has I think a 26" barrel, however it has a five round magazine tube. Do you think I could get away with a temporary magazine plug limiting it to three rounds only?
And people wonder why there are so many gun related deaths in the U.S.
We have so many gun related deaths here because we have a lot of violent criminals that use them. If they did not have guns then we would have just as many murders, but they would be by knives, bombs or any thing else the murderers can imagine to use.

Accidental gun deaths here are very rare and are often possessed by people that didn't even have them legally in the first place. Those people are the least likely to have learned the basics of gun safety and so the number of gun deaths among legal gun owners is even rarer.
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Postby LENA » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:40 pm

Novus wrote:
LENA wrote:Welcome to the forum Novus.
This thread is just a lovely peaceful thread. Right purdey?
Imagine the guy who knows more about guns around here (pantheman) believes that he needs only the gun between his legs. Then why my dear you use them?

I wonder why men can get so excited with guns and hunting?
I don't know why the appeal about hunting because I don't hunt. I have shot some pests, but it never felt "good".
As far as being excited about guns? Why do people get all excited about antiques, sports teams, celebrities, etc.? All the same thing.


Most of the people who loves guns/shooting loves hunting too. At least in Cyprus. I know its not all but most of them.

As for your question....no its not the same thing since guns can hurt or kill people and animals but not the antiques, sports etc. Unless you were talking about collecting guns and not using them which I doubt.
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Postby Filitsa » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:45 pm

ttoli wrote:
Novus wrote:24"?!!? That sucks. Even the most stringent local law in the US didn't ban over 20" for shotguns.

Doesn't matter too much to me at the moment though because my Remington 870 has I think a 26" barrel, however it has a five round magazine tube. Do you think I could get away with a temporary magazine plug limiting it to three rounds only?
And people wonder why there are so many gun related deaths in the U.S.


Guns are only as dangerous as the people who use them.
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Postby dinos » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:53 pm

Novus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Welcome new member Novus.

Are you planning to take on the Turkish Army for us ?
Lol, I actually wondered about that.
Just like with how America is with everyone armed (well, about 40% of everyone armed with a firearm in their home actually) and how it would be idiotic to invade and occupy us, I imagine if Cypriots, and not just the military reserves, were well armed, the Turks might think twice about doing it again.

Think if thousands of Greek Cypriots in Farmagusta or Karenya had a quarter the weapons I have each and they stood their ground alongside the military (my knowledge Cypriot history is not detailed, so bear with me) or stayed and took on guerilla warfare with those weapons, then even if there would be a greater loss of life on both sides, the Turks may have realized it is not so easy and may not have stayed.
I understand I am being idealistic, but really, a well armed populace is always a damn good deterrent to invasion or suppression. Just look how well the Iraqi "insurgents" have been kicking our (as in my America's) ass all these years. They couldn't have done it nearly as well without guns already there dispersed among the people.
Look at how Hitler in a huge part was dissuaded from invading Switzerland.

Think about why so many Cyprus reservists are allowed to have fully auto assault rifles or hanguns in their homes right now. It is because a well armed populace is a great detterent, but what I propose is even the non-reservists (that are responsible and law abiding) be allowed to be just as armed thereby an even greater deterrent.

Now if peace for a hundred years is guaranteed and there is no threat of invasion or the possibility of an illegal and oppressive government taking control, then I can see no "defense of the people" need for arms, but looking back at milleniums of history we can see nothing is truly guaranteed in this world when dealing with human society given enough time.


Automatic weapons may be handy in close combat, but don't provide much defense against nepalm and other such larger-scale weapons. It would also help of other countries mind their own business instead of pushing one country of a second country's back so that a third country could stomp on it when it was down...
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Postby Magnus » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:55 pm

This documentary proves quite conclusively that guns don't kill people, rappers do. :lol:

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