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[Nikitas]

It is a simple matter, no need to complicate it. The importation of settlers on occupied land is a crime.

ALL SETTLERS LEAVE, except those that married Cypriots. We have hundreds of thousands of Cypriots spread all over the world. Giving any kind of incentive to settlers to stay, while not providing incentives to CYPRIOTS to return is nonsense! To take it a step further- let us provide serious financial incentives only for TURKISH CYPRIOTS to return to Cyprus, and none for any other ethnic group of the diaspora. Even if such a scheme leads to an alteration of the demographic makeup of the island, it is preferable to having a favorable balance which includes settlers. The problem is not the proportion, but the presence of settlers. 70-30 GC to TC is preferable to 82-18 GC to mainland settlers.

There is no humanitarian aspect to this issue. The settlers did not materialise out of thin air, they have hometowns and villages to go back to.

Pontians in the south are about 10 000, with residence permits like all other EU nationals. They are not settlers brought over and given TC property. And they do not get Cypriot nationality neither do their offspring.

[umit07]

well good luck to you pushing such a resoulution through a referandum in the North !

[Paphitis]

well good luck to you pushing such a resoulution through a referandum in the North !

Whether we succeed in pushing this resolution through the referendum in the north is not important at all. In fact, it would be a good public opinion victory for the GC side should you reject any referendum.

What is more important is the we do not legitimise your crimes by offering you our signature. This is tantamount to surrender. And the TC side can languish in it's own self imposed isolation and Turkey can be given it's marching orders from the EU in 2009!

[umit07]

well good luck to you pushing such a resoulution through a referandum in the North !

Whether we succeed in pushing this resolution through the referendum in the north is not important at all. In fact, it would be a good public opinion victory for the GC side should you reject any referendum.

What is more important is the we do not legitimise your crimes by offering you our signature. This is tantamount to surrender. And the TC side can languish in it's own self imposed isolation and Turkey can be given it's marching orders from the EU in 2009!

OK let's say the EU give a memorandum for the withdrawal of troops . WHo the hell will enforce it when Turkey tells them to f**k themselves? Keep on waiting Bafidi .......

[Paphitis]

well good luck to you pushing such a resoulution through a referandum in the North !

Whether we succeed in pushing this resolution through the referendum in the north is not important at all. In fact, it would be a good public opinion victory for the GC side should you reject any referendum.

What is more important is the we do not legitimise your crimes by offering you our signature. This is tantamount to surrender. And the TC side can languish in it's own self imposed isolation and Turkey can be given it's marching orders from the EU in 2009!

OK let's say the EU give a memorandum for the withdrawal of troops . WHo the hell will enforce it when Turkey tells them to f**k themselves? Keep on waiting Bafidi .......

The clock is ticking. Geopolitical changes are occuring as we speak and new alliances are being formed. You are all living on borrowed time. The present peace talks will be your final chance at achieving a peaceful settlement. And Turkey will look upon it's EU dreams as just that, a DREAM!

[umit07]

Well I believe that EU entry for TUrkey has always been a dream. When it comes to the clock ticking , I agree that this seems to be the last chance . It looks like it's gonna we now or never! Just please don't cry when things get rough .

[Paphitis]

Well I believe that EU entry for TUrkey has always been a dream. When it comes to the clock ticking , I agree that this seems to be the last chance . It looks like it's gonna we now or never! Just please don't cry when things get rough .

You fail to see the real message of my post. It will be the final chance for a "peaceful solution".

Now I am not surprised that you could not pass your exams!

[umit07]

I got your message loud and clear Bafidi! If GC's are stupid enough to embark on an "unpeacful adventure" , then all I am saying is don't cry about the consequences . I for one do NOT see any military option on both sides of the divide. I know you differ with me on this.

[Nikitas]

"well good luck to you pushing such a resoulution through a referandum in the North !"

Does this mean the TCs are happy having a majority mainland population in the north? If so what is the point of talking about BBF and political equality between the two communities etc? What two communities would that be if most people in the north are mainland Turks?

[umit07]

"well good luck to you pushing such a resoulution through a referandum in the North !"

Does this mean the TCs are happy having a majority mainland population in the north? If so what is the point of talking about BBF and political equality between the two communities etc? What two communities would that be if most people in the north are mainland Turks?

Nobody is happy about it! But at the moment many of them are not citizens . Those who are NOT citizens and are cannot get a working permit can go back. But there around 60,000 that are citizens which we are obliged to protect their rights. BBF would be between TRNC citizens and GC's. Talat and Co are trying to clamp down citizenships to a minimum in about 4 years only around 1500 people have been granted citizenship. UBP and co however are promising to hand out much more if they get elected.