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Postby LENA » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:22 pm

I thought that settlers cannot cross the check points and come to south Cyprus. Well i found out today from my dad that in our area we have lots of settlers. One of them was married with a TC woman and have a child with her. Even though they got a divorce he can come to South. Actually he lives south with his son and work here as well. Another TC man with a Turkish woman live and work south as well. I wonder what is going to happen with any solution that will say that the settlers will have to go back to Turkey.

None of them have any problem apart from the language.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:09 pm

LENA wrote:I thought that settlers cannot cross the check points and come to south Cyprus. Well i found out today from my dad that in our area we have lots of settlers. One of them was married with a TC woman and have a child with her. Even though they got a divorce he can come to South. Actually he lives south with his son and work here as well. Another TC man with a Turkish woman live and work south as well. I wonder what is going to happen with any solution that will say that the settlers will have to go back to Turkey.

None of them have any problem apart from the language.


I don't think that they can legally cross at the check points. They must be climbing over the wall or getting across in another illegal way.
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:45 pm

LENA wrote:I thought that settlers cannot cross the check points and come to south Cyprus. Well i found out today from my dad that in our area we have lots of settlers. One of them was married with a TC woman and have a child with her. Even though they got a divorce he can come to South. Actually he lives south with his son and work here as well. Another TC man with a Turkish woman live and work south as well. I wonder what is going to happen with any solution that will say that the settlers will have to go back to Turkey.

None of them have any problem apart from the language.


Picked up a father and son on the Nicosia/Limassol highway who had brokendown in the rain last winter. The father was a Turk from Trapezounta, lived legitimately in the south (but could not work), wife was an academic Turkish Cypriot working in the south.
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Postby humanist » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:54 pm

sorry VP, I put it there as tongue n cheek, but also because I did think I would not get an unbiased response. If you want to make a coment please go ahead. Preferably one that represents more of the population than yourself.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:15 pm

humanist wrote:sorry VP, I put it there as tongue n cheek, but also because I did think I would not get an unbiased response. If you want to make a coment please go ahead. Preferably one that represents more of the population than yourself.



What is the above response in relation to?
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Postby LENA » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:42 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
LENA wrote:I thought that settlers cannot cross the check points and come to south Cyprus. Well i found out today from my dad that in our area we have lots of settlers. One of them was married with a TC woman and have a child with her. Even though they got a divorce he can come to South. Actually he lives south with his son and work here as well. Another TC man with a Turkish woman live and work south as well. I wonder what is going to happen with any solution that will say that the settlers will have to go back to Turkey.

None of them have any problem apart from the language.


I don't think that they can legally cross at the check points. They must be climbing over the wall or getting across in another illegal way.


I am not sure either...but I dont know what kind of paper they have. As my father said one of the families have some sort of business as well that makes good money. Legal or not they are here.

And as DT added its not just the ones my dad mentioned.
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Postby humanist » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:47 pm

This makes mockery out of the whole thing. The reality is people are shifting and moving to better themselves. I imagine the only ones that will suffer at the end would be thse TC's who were originally from the what is now occupied area. The further, from the crossing points the more disadvantaged people are as they either have to trave way to far to come to the free areas for work or too far to miss out all together.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:24 pm

humanist wrote:This makes mockery out of the whole thing. The reality is people are shifting and moving to better themselves. I imagine the only ones that will suffer at the end would be thse TC's who were originally from the what is now occupied area. The further, from the crossing points the more disadvantaged people are as they either have to trave way to far to come to the free areas for work or too far to miss out all together.


Gosh a north-south divide in the occupied north. With those stolen GC homes in the south of the north fetching premium prices for the thieves so that they can carry on fleecing the Cypriots in the free areas in the south. :roll:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:42 am

LENA wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
LENA wrote:I thought that settlers cannot cross the check points and come to south Cyprus. Well i found out today from my dad that in our area we have lots of settlers. One of them was married with a TC woman and have a child with her. Even though they got a divorce he can come to South. Actually he lives south with his son and work here as well. Another TC man with a Turkish woman live and work south as well. I wonder what is going to happen with any solution that will say that the settlers will have to go back to Turkey.

None of them have any problem apart from the language.


I don't think that they can legally cross at the check points. They must be climbing over the wall or getting across in another illegal way.


I am not sure either...but I dont know what kind of paper they have. As my father said one of the families have some sort of business as well that makes good money. Legal or not they are here.

And as DT added its not just the ones my dad mentioned.


Perhaps they claim assylum. I know that in Limassol there are "Kurdish" refugees who in fact speak Turkish among themselves.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:04 am

It seems that the RoC is making the same mistake all over again, it is not taking itself seriously as a state and allows all kinds of people to arrive and stay. But in my case it remembers its formalities- my wife of 30 yeras cannot claim Cypriot citizenship unless we live on the island for 3 years. This is a measure to ensure that the marriage is not one of convenience. This is what an official told me. Finally there was a man who enlightened me as to why my wife married me! It was all a ploy to gain a coveted RoC passport. But it never got past the hawks of the government, no sir!

In the meantime mainland Turks are opening up businesses and doing well in the RoC according to Lena. Seems like we are asking for trouble again.
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