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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:51 pm

You must excuse Halil, the kebabs have finally reached the brain.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:01 pm

DT. wrote:You must excuse Halil, the kebabs have finally reached the brain.


If I wasnt going to meet my yegen BK and his precious one, I would have cancelled my trip this year. :(
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Postby humanist » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:38 pm

Is it ethical that more settlers than TC's remain in the north TC state? Zan n VP pls do not respond ;)
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:45 pm

humanist wrote:Is it ethical that more settlers than TC's remain in the north TC state? Zan n VP pls do not respond ;)


Why?
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Is it ethical that more settlers than TC's remain in the north TC state? Zan n VP pls do not respond ;)


Why?


Perhaps Humanist thinks both you and Zan are Turks, therefore your answers will be biased towards the settlers.!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:30 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have a very unique and distinctive culture, and speak a dialect of Turkish that is very different from the mainland variety.


You got that right Tim.!

We TC's and Turks can tell the difference very easily, but as a outsider, can you.?? The fact that you have spent 12 years in Turkey, it might be too easy for you to recognize the difference than other outsiders I suppose.


I am pretty sure that I could stand on a busy street in the north of Cyprus and identify which passers-by are Turkish Cypriots and which are mainland Turks with almost 100% accuracy. This has partly to do with the socio-economic status and rural origins of most of the settlers, though. It would be much harder, for example, to distinguish between the younger generation of Turkish Cypriots and middle-class mainland Turks from the large cities.


Tim,

Good observation Tim. I should have been a little clearer with my question to you however. What I really wanted to know was, when you listen to others speaking in Turkish, can you detect the differences between the Turks and TC's, based on their accents.

Thanks.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have a very unique and distinctive culture, and speak a dialect of Turkish that is very different from the mainland variety.


You got that right Tim.!

We TC's and Turks can tell the difference very easily, but as a outsider, can you.?? The fact that you have spent 12 years in Turkey, it might be too easy for you to recognize the difference than other outsiders I suppose.


I am pretty sure that I could stand on a busy street in the north of Cyprus and identify which passers-by are Turkish Cypriots and which are mainland Turks with almost 100% accuracy. This has partly to do with the socio-economic status and rural origins of most of the settlers, though. It would be much harder, for example, to distinguish between the younger generation of Turkish Cypriots and middle-class mainland Turks from the large cities.


Tim,

Good observation Tim. I should have been a little clearer with my question to you however. What I really wanted to know was, when you listen to others speaking in Turkish, can you detect the differences between the Turks and TC's, based on their accents.

Thanks.



Listening is the easiest and best way to differentiate, except if you come accross a TC who has studied and remained in Turkey for a long time. eVEN THEN, THEY MIGHT GIVE THEIR ORIGINS AWAY.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Is it ethical that more settlers than TC's remain in the north TC state? Zan n VP pls do not respond ;)


Why?


Perhaps Humanist thinks both you and Zan are Turks, therefore your answers will be biased towards the settlers.!! :lol: :lol:


Ho right.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have a very unique and distinctive culture, and speak a dialect of Turkish that is very different from the mainland variety.


You got that right Tim.!

We TC's and Turks can tell the difference very easily, but as a outsider, can you.?? The fact that you have spent 12 years in Turkey, it might be too easy for you to recognize the difference than other outsiders I suppose.


I am pretty sure that I could stand on a busy street in the north of Cyprus and identify which passers-by are Turkish Cypriots and which are mainland Turks with almost 100% accuracy. This has partly to do with the socio-economic status and rural origins of most of the settlers, though. It would be much harder, for example, to distinguish between the younger generation of Turkish Cypriots and middle-class mainland Turks from the large cities.


Tim,

Good observation Tim. I should have been a little clearer with my question to you however. What I really wanted to know was, when you listen to others speaking in Turkish, can you detect the differences between the Turks and TC's, based on their accents.

Thanks.



Listening is the easiest and best way to differentiate, except if you come accross a TC who has studied and remained in Turkey for a long time. eVEN THEN, THEY MIGHT GIVE THEIR ORIGINS AWAY.


For us it is always a dead giveaway Deniz, and what you say it's true. My twin sister living in Turkey for 30+ years still does not sound like a true Turk, but close. You can tell she is a "transplant" from Cyprus to Turkey. But I was wondering if an outsider can detect the differences between the two.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:24 am

Kikapu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have a very unique and distinctive culture, and speak a dialect of Turkish that is very different from the mainland variety.


You got that right Tim.!

We TC's and Turks can tell the difference very easily, but as a outsider, can you.?? The fact that you have spent 12 years in Turkey, it might be too easy for you to recognize the difference than other outsiders I suppose.


I am pretty sure that I could stand on a busy street in the north of Cyprus and identify which passers-by are Turkish Cypriots and which are mainland Turks with almost 100% accuracy. This has partly to do with the socio-economic status and rural origins of most of the settlers, though. It would be much harder, for example, to distinguish between the younger generation of Turkish Cypriots and middle-class mainland Turks from the large cities.


Tim,

Good observation Tim. I should have been a little clearer with my question to you however. What I really wanted to know was, when you listen to others speaking in Turkish, can you detect the differences between the Turks and TC's, based on their accents.

Thanks.



Listening is the easiest and best way to differentiate, except if you come accross a TC who has studied and remained in Turkey for a long time. eVEN THEN, THEY MIGHT GIVE THEIR ORIGINS AWAY.


For us it is always a dead giveaway Deniz, and what you say it's true. My twin sister living in Turkey for 30+ years still does not sound like a true Turk, but close. You can tell she is a "transplant" from Cyprus to Turkey. But I was wondering if an outsider can detect the differences between the two.


I reckon someone like Tim will have a good doygun/full ear. He could differentiate.
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